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The Real Truth

Posted By: Randy GageApril 5, 2011

We talk here sometimes about Truth.  As in Truth with a capital ‘T’.  So are you really living in your Truth?

Now Truth is not to be confused with fact.  Because Truth will sometimes transcend fact.  As an example, you may be sick.  That is a fact, but it’s not your Truth.  Your Truth is wellness.  You may be experiencing lack, but your Truth is prosperity.

You also see some back and forth here between the Fundamentalists and me.  That’s because they so often claim to have a trademark on the Truth.   Saddam Hussein was a fundamentalist, and so was Ayatollah Khomeini.  Pat Robertson, Fred Phelps and Osama bin Laden are fundamentalists.  While all of these guys have diametrically different beliefs, they all claim Truth.  In actuality they use the fundamentalist banner to spread hate.  That’s not Truth or even truth.

So how about you?  Are you ready to step into your real Truth?

-RG

P.S.  I'm off to Costa Rica, I'll check in from there.

59 comments on “The Real Truth”

  1. I am always an advocate for the "Truth". That's why you see me going back and forth so much with Randy Gage. He isn't a Christian Fundamentalist, or any kind of Religious Fundamentalist, but a Fundamentalist of another kind.

    An absolute statement like to be "poor is a sin", while he may have good intentions, just like those Christian Fundamentalists, it is not the truth no matter how you define sin. He stated in his book to believe in wealth you must be a Libertarian. Sound anything like to get to heaven you must be a Christian? To me it is intolerance and hate disguised as the light, just as those Christian Fundamentalists crusade for the case that only those who follow Jesus's message will be "Saved"

    Save yourselves from this message, don't believe it because it comes from someone who has made so much money, and has so much power, that does not give him the rights to the "REAL TRUTH".

    Randy has so many good messages just like some of those other Fundamentalists, just don't buy into the half truths. You either Randy. Not all of your truths are "real truth" they are just your "truths".

    I don't have all the "REAL TRUTH" either. And I know people's personal truths are not always the "REAL TRUTH". Truth can be difficult to discern especially when covered in half truths, just use your best judgement.

    I love the TRUTH Randy, I always have. Yes, I believe that everyone's truth is to be prosperous as well.

    I am more than ready to step into my "REAL TRUTH" with or without anyone's approval. I love you and most of your messages Randy, but I hated your hate, that is where I went wrong. If we fight hate with hate it only spreads more hate, that is a "REAL TRUTH" I know for sure.

    Thanks for all you do Randy. Nobody is perfect, and that's the TRUTH too! 🙂

    1. Annie,

      What a surprise!!!! :):):)

      Another disagreement with Randy....:):):)

      Yes, you are definitely an advocate of truth..., but woman...., I tell you....your sizzle...at times is overwhelming....:)

      It is true that Randy uses certain analogies and language that hits right between the eyes....

      Actually...., my truth is....that it is excatly what I like about him....
      No b.s...., it is what it is....., nothing less.... Love it!!!!
      Call me crazy...., call me anything you want...., but such a trait is soooo unusual and unique this days!....

      Uuuuu....I can feel you're sizzling again.... 🙂
      Don't hate....., there is more....

      So, back to Randy...
      Randy is a man of strong character. He is not some charismatic personality...., and there is a huge difference...

      Randy is not here to win popularity and make us feel all warm inside...
      His purpose is to wake us from the delusional la-la dream of helplessness and neediness....

      Okay...., moving on...

      The common denomanator in your posts is money....

      What's up with that? :):):)

      To me it means that you don't have money and are miserable.
      Or, that you have more money than all of us combined...., and still are miserable.....

      And I don't care which one it is....but the root of the problem is the same in both cases....

      Okay...., back to Randy...

      Randy's goal is to lead by example. And that is precisely what he is doing...
      He is not looking for needy worshipers or followers...
      His goal is to help each and every individual (who is interested)..., to become and independent leader him/herself...

      So..., before you strike for the jugular....think.....think logic....

      If something I wrote does not make sense, then ask me to clarify....

      Remember...., Hatred just waits to be provoked....Love is something we constantly have to work on....

      Same applies to feelings and reason....
      Feelings will flow and flow effortlessly.....
      Reason takes great effort....

      Choose one or the other....

      Victoria

      1. Hi Victoria,

        I have all those feelings about Randy too. I do think he is out to do good things and help people. I also, think maybe he isn't aware of how some of his ideologies can be damaging.

        Here is my logic, I will use an analogy as I did above. Fundamentalist Christians say for instance, to be homosexual is a sin. That is damaging to people with that orientation, it provokes intolerance and hate. We agree, Right? So, to me saying "to be poor is a sin", inspires the same intolerance and hate for those who are poor, or at least it could, and trust me there is already enough hate out there for the poor, because mostly they are minorities as well. So to me, it also inadvertantly perhaps, adding more biggotry to the world.

        The same for saying you have to be Libertarian to really believe in wealth. Like I said above, it is the same as telling people you have to be Christian to get to heaven. Where does that leave us left wingers, who want to learn from Randy's prosperity teachings? I have to change my ideology to believe in wealth? Where does a homosexual go for instance, if he wants to be Christian and the Christians are saying he is against Christianity by who he/she is?

        I am someone who has taken an oath, truly I signed a social work contract at Kansas University, to advocate for and speak out against anyone or anything that can further do damage to minorities, children, elderly, and economically disadvantaged. So, I am doing it now.

        I also would say that some of Randy's application of social and physical science, leaves me gasping for breath as well. And, then again some of it is right on the money.

        I will tell you what Randy does really well too. He does make some ideas very relatable in ways that amaze even me.

        No hate or misery here today Victoria! 🙂 Just me and my personal values. Take care!

        Annie

        1. Annie,

          Very good, thank you! 🙂 🙂 🙂

          I finally....understand...:)

          And your personal values are GREAT!!!... 🙂 🙂

          So..., from now on..., you'll write your posts to Randy..., just like the one you wrote to me....

          Right? 🙂 🙂

          No insults, no bashing....:) 🙂
          Common sense discussion....:)
          So everyone can undertand your point.... 🙂

          Right? 🙂 🙂

          Respectfully,
          Victoria

        2. Hey Annie-
          This is one of the most articulate explanations of your position you have ever written. It's well stated and personal.

          I often wonder, why don't you just start your own blog about what you want to say to the world and become an "advocate for and speak out against anyone or anything that can further do damage to minorities, children, elderly, and economically disadvantaged", rather then using Randy's blog to keep going at it with him?

          I think you could do more good for those you stand by actually doing something for your cause then to keep bantering here.
          Jeanne

    2. Annie- Keep in mind that Randy has a much different definition of sin than fundamental religion. He uses the true definition that sin is an ancient archery term "to miss the mark." So to be poor, one is "missing the mark." Our natural state is abundance so being poor is missing the mark. If one is poor this doesn't damn them to hell or anything else. Also, being poor is a state of mind whereas being broke is a temporary condition.

      Regarding the Libertarian party, keep in mind that Randy's primary message is to think for yourself. I enjoy Randy's view on things as it has me think. And I don't always agree with everything he says nor do I worship him nor is he looking for that. he's done his job with me as he gets me thinking. I am an independent asI think for myself. The two traditional political parties are riddled with group think and are completely out of integrity with what it is they say they believe. For example, I live in a wealthy Republican county where free-markets and small government is preached. However, these same people overwhelmingly voted down having medical marijuana facilities. Huh? What gives? The Libertians are more congruent, though I don't agree with all their positions.

      1. Hey Joe-
        FYI- The Hebrew word for "sin" is literally translated to English as "to miss the mark". This is a very Jewish understanding and definition of sin.
        Jeanne

  2. Now for anyone that is wondering...

    As you know, I've had issues in the past with Annie's inability to debate the issues without bring personal attacks into the equation. So after last week, I decided that going forward, if this happened again, I would have to move her comments into the Spam folder.

    When I read her comment above, that was my first instinct. However, in fairness to her, that wouldn't be justified today.

    The last thing I want this space to be is politically correct. When I post something, you're going to get the unvarnished truth of what I believe and am working on in the moment.

    And I do feel the people referenced above have used the cloak of God and religion to spread evil. For that reason, I specifically listed them by name, believing their practices deserve condemnation in any just and prosperous society. In doing so with them, that leaves me up as fair game as well. So Annie's comment will stand.

    -RG

      1. I still stand by this comment (I think you are GREAT!). But, I hope that you don't go away feeling like a victim of false accusations, that wouldn't show a lot of integrity. Instead, I hope you will take it as something you can examine and see if it applies to you or not. I did not give this comment out of malice. As Natalie would say, I did it out of my MAMA BEAR place, to protect a certain group of people that I have advocated for, for years.

    1. Randy if you had the chance to share your views with any of the above people, would you do it? Despite what others may think of you, or how crazy they call you? Because that is what I am doing here. Partly anyway.

      Before, I go, I also want to say for the record I have debated successfully here on this blog without personal attacks. Sometimes my arguments with you got personal. To say I have an inability to debate without personal attacks is a lie, and you know it. What kinds of things would you like to say to Mr. Phelps for instance? Would they be pleasant? Would you even have the guts to go up against him and his supporters? If ever there is a chance to debate old Mr. Phelps, who I agree is just as awful as they come, wouldn't you kinda want to send me? 🙂 I mean really wouldn't you like to see me take on some of those Guys up there?!? You know you do, well anyway you dream about what that might look like.

      Annie

    1. I am confused by this one, too. Maybe it needs clarification, Randy. I see it as two different words - one being the regular definition of 'truth', as it is in lower-case. Note Randy's use of it in both cases. The second being 'Truth', as partially defined in the article. I would see 'Truth' as the world seen by the eyes of source (or God or universe, and that of the full unlimited/abundant potential of each person. In other words, prosperity is just the way it is, unless beliefs/habits perpetrate the person's conscious and subconscious ways. Lack, in any way it manifests itself, is our choice. It's wonderful, as it gives us the ability to clarify with stronger distinction that which we want in our lives. It is important not to live/ruminate in that lack.
      -John

        1. Isn't it actually relative to all of these things. For instance, we have certain politicians who are strict constitutionalists but don't adhere to "We hold these TRUTHS to be self-evident that all men are created equal". How come everyone isn't equal under their constitution? So is it Truths or the Real Truth, or the Real Truth As They See It? The only real truth is when you hear someone say it or can prove that they actually wrote it. The only thing that is true about what they said or wrote is that they actually said or wrote it. And to Annie, "I will return in the same manner which I left." Tell me where that came from and you are not a fundamentalist, you are a believer because the Truth is that it was really spoken.

          1. Great point, Christopher. Haven't you seen the fine print on the constitution after "all men are created equal" it says in fine print, "unless you're not one of us. " 🙂

  3. Costa Rica! Nice!!!

    My step-mother attends church every single day....

    She speaks of death as something greater than life..., and cannot wait to leave Earth.....
    Seeing life as suffering...., she proclaims that she is happy....And encourages me to embrace Christ...

    And that is my step-mother's truth....

    The truth is.... my step-mother's truth scares me...

    So I choose my own truth:

    I love life and see it as a beautiful experience... There is soooo much to learn..., soooo much to see...., soooo much to experience... And soooo little time....

    I find it interesting that all of the religions want me to surrender to someone or something...
    Well..., my truth is... I do not surrender to anyone or anything..., to surrender would be suicidal..., and would mean loosing myself...
    It is because of this self...., that I am capable of leading myself instead of being a follower...
    It is because of this self...., that I choose to take responsibility for my life....instead of sinking into a swamp of victim hood...

    And even though I do not belong to any religious doctrine, I live by the similar guide lines of right and wrong...
    Of course I make mistakes...., but how else would I learn and shape my character..., chiseling of which... is a lifelong process...

    Happiness and achievement of my happiness is the meaning of my life....Courage and integrity are my tools... And my self is the vehicle..., as no one else can make me happy, except for me, myself and I....

    I believe that happiness comes from within...., and no matter of what material things I may posses...., they will not make me happy if I am not happy with who I am....

    And that is my real truth....

    As always, happy with me, myself and I...
    Victoria

    My step-mother's truth scares me....

    1. Victoria, I always enjoy and admire your posts...but this one really grabbed me. Love this line: "Happiness and achievement of my happiness is the meaning of my life...courage and integrity are my tools...and my self is the vehicle..." Thanks for always taking the time to share your insights and broaden the impact of Randy's Blog. You're much apppreciated!

      -Sean

      1. BTY, I probably add more value to your posts than you imagine. I don't need you to say so. Just hope one day you see...

        Annie

        1. Annie- There's your need for approval kicking in again. You may want to examine that and see where it is limiting you in your life. It's one of the biggest limiting factors in people's lives.

    2. I love your posts too Victoria, although we may not agree on everything, we stand for what we believe in!

      I am very happy with myself too, I have courage in promoting the truth when everyone is against it. Try as I do, to promote your truths in a place where others don't want to see it, it helps to define even more who you are, trust me, I KNOW! It is scary, but at the end of the day you know, no matter what anyone else thinks of you or your values, you had the courage to stand for something you believe is TRUTH! I love my independent ass kicking self, for sure 😉

      Annie

      1. Annie-

        With all due respect, people that truly love and respect themself aren't so angry all the time as you express here on this blog. Just my humble opinion.

    3. Love your post. As Wayne Dyer says, "there is no way to happiness, happiness is the way." Shawn Achor, in his ground breaking book, "The Happiness Advantage," provides scientific data to show that happiness is a precursor to success, not a result of it. This book is a must read.

  4. Interesting and thought provoking article. Makes me want to attain my truths.
    thanks for making me think

  5. Randy, great topic...I'd love to hear you expand a bit more on this...maybe a follow up post? Enjoy Costa Rica!!

    -Sean

      1. LOL! Now that was funny Annie! 😉

        PS: Btw, it's Randy's birthday so maybe you can do ONE post on all the nice things you love about him instead? I promise to read that. 😉

        1. Thanks Jamie! I was actually just going to be quiet for a change as a birthday gift. 🙂 Since it is the same post as yesterday, maybe I will come up with something really nice for the Big Guy. 🙂

          Annie

  6. Hmmmm. I pretty much tune out when religion gets brought into "truth" discussions but I couldn't pass this one up.

    What if truth has nothing to do with religion but is more about our alignment with our own inner values?

    What if truth is often confused with "being right" about how life works?

    What if truth is our greatest measure of success -- the line between doing what it takes and doing what is most authentic?

    I have a fundamental Mormon father and a spiritual "new thought" mother. I don't need a religion to tell me what is my truth -- but I do value the reflection of when I'm out of whack with my own truth (just wrote a blog post about it today.)

    So...I'll stir the pot a bit and add that from my point of view truth has nothing to do with any religion but is about our ability to stay true to the role we were born to play in the face of others telling you its wrong.

    Melanie

    Interesting post Randy. Personally I'd rather hear more about Costa Rica! =-)

  7. When we pick up The Truth, it is usually to bash someone else with it.

    We will do well to just look for our own Truth and drop the "The".

    Living our own Truth takes courage and love, and we must love our self enough to want our Truth.

    All it takes to buy into The Truth is fear.

  8. Are you kidding Randy????
    Do you come to Costa Rica, when?, where are you going to be?

    I can´t wait to meet you in person !!!!(well... as you let it be, hahaha)

    Best

  9. INABILITY to debate without personal attacks? Please restate that, as it is written it is not the TRUTH! It is your attempt to discredit me, which usually launches me into personl attacks. Play fair.

    See how easy it is to accept something blindy as the truth, even when it is about us, and it is not even true?

    That is not my truth RANDY, no matter what you say.

    Annie

    PS I still think you are great. 🙂

  10. Today I decided to do some clearing work around my social-phobia, aka shyness. That social-phobia has been a Fact of my life so far.
    The Truth, however, is that humans are social beings. Shyness, social-phobias, are human-add-ons.

    I am reminded of something Randy has said in other media, about how it is Natural for humans to expect to get their needs fulfilled. We are born with that expectation, but we learn to expect otherwise.

    To my mind, TRUTH is how-we-are, naturally: social, aware of our ultimate one-ness, secure, trusting, prosperous, etc.

    This is not about My Truth, but The Truth.

    My desire is that my life be an expression of The Truth.
    I am in the process of clearing out a bunch of Factual garbage, all the ways-of-being and so on (including 'religious' perceptions) that I've collected over a longish life, and which, I realize, no longer serve me (if they ever did).

    I don't want to live "my truth" anymore; all that mental-emotional crud. I'm ready to live The Truth - as the being I was born to be, the ideal human 'God' had in mind when I was created.

    Randy, you seem to have a pretty good handle on The Truth, you seem to live a pretty ideal, indeed an idyllic, life. So, I trust your wisdom, even when your ideas are pretty different from mine....or perhaps, Especially when your ideas are different from mine.

    Thanks for shining a new light - Mrs. H&P

  11. ok, this is worded a bit confusing but that's because it's the end of the day and I'm tired.

    Here's my perspective of Truth.

    Truth is reality, love. It is what exists apart from everyone's perception of it. We are Truth because we exist but we are a fragment or a piece of the whole...and our point of view allows us to see only what we can see. Thus our viewpoint is "our" truth. Our reality.

    You really can't argue anyone else's perception of reality because all that anyone is saying is this is what "I" see. But what we can do is choose how we wish to see reality based on what we want to experience in this life, which usually has to do with what feels really right to our souls.

    When we die, it's is my belief that we get to see the whole of reality..merge into it without our separateness...at times when we loose our viewpoint and boundaries we can also experience a bit of this too (Ultimate Truth) but if we want to move, speak, create, live we have to move out of that space and doing so breaks that vision. We then create an expression of that experience.

    We are Truth. Our expressions and beliefs can be in alignment with who we really are or they can be a little off. But all expressions are a form of creation and all of creation is a reflection of Truth.

    If we like our lives keep expressing it that way! If we don't, change our viewpoint, expression and beliefs...but you never have to change who you are...because who you are is and always will be Truth, love, real. You can't change that...you can only connect with it and express it the best you can.

    1. I agree, Eve! THE Truth is eternal & universal. "My Truth" and "Your Truth" are somewhat less than that! Our Truths may differ, indeed, they'll almost certainly do differ.
      I believe our challenge is to hold our personal Truth rather lightly, letting go of that limited perspective when we are presented with information or ideas that come a little closer to matching THE Truth.

      It seems to me that Randy's Truth is quite a lot closer to THE Truth than my Truth is. The evidence certainly points in that direction. If I had Randy's cleaner, clearer awareness of THE Truth, I'd be....more prosperous, amongst other things.

      Oh well....he's been working deliberately on the Getting True project for a bit longer than I have. I'll get there. I'm on my way...My Truth is more and more in alignment with THE Truth. Thanks, Randy, for your help~ Gratefully, Mrs. H&P

      1. Yes, Mrs. H&P, just a different perspective.

        I believe....since we are a part of reality/Truth..when we hear someone expressing in a way that reminds us of our inner nature it rings true for us. Awakens the real you. Helps to remove the cobwebs and illusions that can gather. To clarify ourselves/visions. Keep us inspired.

        I am a very creative person so sometimes my own expression gets in the way of what I try to say. Sometimes I hear it said plain as day and I'm like, YES! That's what I meant!!

        I think when new ideas are presented to us it can help us clear away our clouds and bring us closer to "our" truth. But I don't think it brings us closer to "The Truth" as if we are all suppose to percieve in one way. We need all different perceptions for the greater harmony to work. But we do need to learn how to get along with other perceptions. But that doesn't mean we are obligated to let every different perception into our inner space (mind, home, lives,hearts). It just means we don't have to fight them, try to kill them or even try to convert them.

        Truth is also a matter of degree. If I'm in a dream and a dream character asks me what color shirt I'm wearing I can tell the truth and say green. Another person who hears me talking in my sleep can say you are not wearing a green shirt! So there's different truths and many conflicts have to do with miscommunication as well as different perception.

        Were all in different places, needing different experiences for our souls journey. I think it's best when we find our truth and create space for it to grow while weeding our own garden of the thoughts and perceptions that choke out our intentions.

        But even if we weed dandelion greens out of our garden it doesn't mean dandelion greens are inherently evil or bad or have no use! They are great cleansing herbs! So it all depends on what we want to grow in our garden rather than needing to find the Ultimate Truth..or to know what is good and what is evil. All we need to know is what is good for us in our garden.

  12. Hello Randy,

    Are you in Costa Rica now? Will be there a conference or something?

    Please provide me some information, I assisted in your first visit here but I am not updated with Agel movement here in CR.

    Thank You

    Esteban

  13. 'When our primary response to differences of opinion is unconditional acceptance, we demonstrate the legitimacy of our belief in humanity's fundamental right to self-determination. However much we might wish that the people with whom we share our environments might adopt our beliefs and values, we can nonetheless understand that the paths they have chosen to walk are likely serving them well at this point in their lives. We choose not to engage in debates or arguments regarding individual ideologies because we are tolerant of others' views as a matter of course."

    I read this today and felt it was very connected to this post. I don't know that I completely agree with the serving them well part, there are people out there right now walking paths that are possibly not serving them well in the moment, but are a part of the bigger picture of the journey they are on to get to the Truth of who they really are.

    Here's how I understand it:
    Wellness, Abundance, and Prosperity is EVERYONE'S Truth. At our core, that is the Truth of who we are. Fact is your reality right now, in the present moment. Like Randy said, you might be sick, but Wellness is at the core of who you really are. You might not be in the place you want to be, but knowing the Truth of who you really are and learning step by step how to live your Truth is being on the path of getting to the place you should be in, the place you so rightly deserve. It's a fact that people are poor, sick, and broke, and a whole other story all together when you believe that you have to stay that way or you have no choice in the matter.

  14. How uncanny! These posts are sooo timely. Yesterday I nipped into a department store to buy some elastics for my daughter's hair. When I went to pay I discovered my wallet had been stolen from my bag. My heart sank as I thought of all the hassle of renewing passport, driving licence, bank cards etc not to mention the wad of cash. I ran outside but there were a few exits to the store and I imagined they were probably long gone. I thought my only hope is to pray for the crazy and seemingly impossible scenario - that somehow that red wallet would re appear in the flesh! My fervent prayer was interrupted by a voice over the loudspeaker that said - "could Hilary Moore please come to the cash desk on the first floor." In an elated state of gratitude and anticipation I raced downstairs. I was sure my perpetrators had taken the cash and dumped the rest and I had to pinch myself when I was handed a wallet totaly intact - cash and all! A plain clothed security guard in the shop had witnessed the whole episode and caught them red handed! At this point the real heat started. The police were called in and I was asked if I wanted to press charges on these 2 girls who had just arrived from Bulgaria. If I did they'd go to prison, if I didn't they'd go free. I asked how long they'd spend in prison and was told a few months! Some people, like my father, would not hestitate and say - what they did was unequivicobally wrong - lock them up immediately etc etc ( my father is a very devout Christian) and one of his favorite expressions is " but that is WRONG!" He has a very clear sense of what is right and what is wrong. Life would be so much easier for me if I did too but I couldn't help feel sorry for these girls and wondered if I came from a country where there is very little work, and if I had no money to feed my children and no knowledge of enlightening blogs or supportive communities maybe I'd be doing the same thing. I told the policeman it was not my responsability to implement the law. The truth is these girls were stealing and stealing is wrong - even if Shakespeare said there is no right or wrong but thinking makes it so - but I did not feel it was my responsability to decide their fate over the next few months. Many ideas went through my mind at this stage - if they are released now - they'll find another victim as soon as they are out of here or would their close shave with the prospect of a potential period in prison be enough to deter them from such activities? And is prison really the solution? After all people who do 20 years in prison when released often repeat the same crime - but maybe they should be removed from society to protect innocent victims. Yet many people when in prison get all kinds of ideas from inmates that they do worse things when they get out. However, if I am ultimately responsible for everything that happens to me, I should have taken more care and not made myself a target, with a bag that was pretty easy to access. Now my heart was really beating and I was the one beginning to feel guilty! I asked to know the truth in this instance. Then the story of Jesus' compassion for the robbers on the cross came to me when he said - "Father forgive them for they not not what they do." I am not a fundamentalist 'tho I was raised with biblical principles. I was feeling such ambiguity I wished I knew the truth to what was really right and what was wrong in such a moment. I totally embrace everything you say in this post re OUR choice of truth in our own lives pertaining to our prosperity and health etc but when we have to chose what is right for others - thats not so easy. Personally I chose to love everyone that comes into my life and never judge anyone. I felt it would be irresponsible to let them go but at that moment I was so aware of my abundance and prosperity ( not just in the material realm) and their lack of consciousness. I couldn't even speak to them as they only spoke Bulgarian. I guess my father would say - and that's exactly why the law exists so you dont have to go through such torturous decisions. I remember someone in a recent blog raised this topic and said they thought prisoners were such because of the lack of love they had received and that punishment is not the solution.
    I would like to know if other people go through such dilemas or if people have clearly defined ideas of right and wrong in such incidences.
    I apologise if this has been a really long post but this predicament seems relevant to a few of the recent posts on values, ethics, good, evil, morality and truth.

    PS. Another thing that is timely and almost spooky about this post. Yesterday a friend of mine who I have known for years told me he is paying big storage costs on hundreds of thousands of pieces of merchandise he has no time to look after. The funny thing is the contents of those boxes are the latest and greatest magnifying glasses!!

  15. For anyone discussing this subject:

    If you think you're Right, you are Right. If you think you're Wrong, you're Right too. And that is Tru(e)th.

    Gerrit

    Ps. Randy, have a wonderful, blessed day, full of love from connected souls!

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    1. I am always an advocate for the "Truth". That's why you see me going back and forth so much with Randy Gage. He isn't a Christian Fundamentalist, or any kind of Religious Fundamentalist, but a Fundamentalist of another kind.

      An absolute statement like to be "poor is a sin", while he may have good intentions, just like those Christian Fundamentalists, it is not the truth no matter how you define sin. He stated in his book to believe in wealth you must be a Libertarian. Sound anything like to get to heaven you must be a Christian? To me it is intolerance and hate disguised as the light, just as those Christian Fundamentalists crusade for the case that only those who follow Jesus's message will be "Saved"

      Save yourselves from this message, don't believe it because it comes from someone who has made so much money, and has so much power, that does not give him the rights to the "REAL TRUTH".

      Randy has so many good messages just like some of those other Fundamentalists, just don't buy into the half truths. You either Randy. Not all of your truths are "real truth" they are just your "truths".

      I don't have all the "REAL TRUTH" either. And I know people's personal truths are not always the "REAL TRUTH". Truth can be difficult to discern especially when covered in half truths, just use your best judgement.

      I love the TRUTH Randy, I always have. Yes, I believe that everyone's truth is to be prosperous as well.

      I am more than ready to step into my "REAL TRUTH" with or without anyone's approval. I love you and most of your messages Randy, but I hated your hate, that is where I went wrong. If we fight hate with hate it only spreads more hate, that is a "REAL TRUTH" I know for sure.

      Thanks for all you do Randy. Nobody is perfect, and that's the TRUTH too! 🙂

      1. Annie,

        What a surprise!!!! :):):)

        Another disagreement with Randy....:):):)

        Yes, you are definitely an advocate of truth..., but woman...., I tell you....your sizzle...at times is overwhelming....:)

        It is true that Randy uses certain analogies and language that hits right between the eyes....

        Actually...., my truth is....that it is excatly what I like about him....
        No b.s...., it is what it is....., nothing less.... Love it!!!!
        Call me crazy...., call me anything you want...., but such a trait is soooo unusual and unique this days!....

        Uuuuu....I can feel you're sizzling again.... 🙂
        Don't hate....., there is more....

        So, back to Randy...
        Randy is a man of strong character. He is not some charismatic personality...., and there is a huge difference...

        Randy is not here to win popularity and make us feel all warm inside...
        His purpose is to wake us from the delusional la-la dream of helplessness and neediness....

        Okay...., moving on...

        The common denomanator in your posts is money....

        What's up with that? :):):)

        To me it means that you don't have money and are miserable.
        Or, that you have more money than all of us combined...., and still are miserable.....

        And I don't care which one it is....but the root of the problem is the same in both cases....

        Okay...., back to Randy...

        Randy's goal is to lead by example. And that is precisely what he is doing...
        He is not looking for needy worshipers or followers...
        His goal is to help each and every individual (who is interested)..., to become and independent leader him/herself...

        So..., before you strike for the jugular....think.....think logic....

        If something I wrote does not make sense, then ask me to clarify....

        Remember...., Hatred just waits to be provoked....Love is something we constantly have to work on....

        Same applies to feelings and reason....
        Feelings will flow and flow effortlessly.....
        Reason takes great effort....

        Choose one or the other....

        Victoria

        1. Hi Victoria,

          I have all those feelings about Randy too. I do think he is out to do good things and help people. I also, think maybe he isn't aware of how some of his ideologies can be damaging.

          Here is my logic, I will use an analogy as I did above. Fundamentalist Christians say for instance, to be homosexual is a sin. That is damaging to people with that orientation, it provokes intolerance and hate. We agree, Right? So, to me saying "to be poor is a sin", inspires the same intolerance and hate for those who are poor, or at least it could, and trust me there is already enough hate out there for the poor, because mostly they are minorities as well. So to me, it also inadvertantly perhaps, adding more biggotry to the world.

          The same for saying you have to be Libertarian to really believe in wealth. Like I said above, it is the same as telling people you have to be Christian to get to heaven. Where does that leave us left wingers, who want to learn from Randy's prosperity teachings? I have to change my ideology to believe in wealth? Where does a homosexual go for instance, if he wants to be Christian and the Christians are saying he is against Christianity by who he/she is?

          I am someone who has taken an oath, truly I signed a social work contract at Kansas University, to advocate for and speak out against anyone or anything that can further do damage to minorities, children, elderly, and economically disadvantaged. So, I am doing it now.

          I also would say that some of Randy's application of social and physical science, leaves me gasping for breath as well. And, then again some of it is right on the money.

          I will tell you what Randy does really well too. He does make some ideas very relatable in ways that amaze even me.

          No hate or misery here today Victoria! 🙂 Just me and my personal values. Take care!

          Annie

          1. Annie,

            Very good, thank you! 🙂 🙂 🙂

            I finally....understand...:)

            And your personal values are GREAT!!!... 🙂 🙂

            So..., from now on..., you'll write your posts to Randy..., just like the one you wrote to me....

            Right? 🙂 🙂

            No insults, no bashing....:) 🙂
            Common sense discussion....:)
            So everyone can undertand your point.... 🙂

            Right? 🙂 🙂

            Respectfully,
            Victoria

          2. Hey Annie-
            This is one of the most articulate explanations of your position you have ever written. It's well stated and personal.

            I often wonder, why don't you just start your own blog about what you want to say to the world and become an "advocate for and speak out against anyone or anything that can further do damage to minorities, children, elderly, and economically disadvantaged", rather then using Randy's blog to keep going at it with him?

            I think you could do more good for those you stand by actually doing something for your cause then to keep bantering here.
            Jeanne

      2. Annie- Keep in mind that Randy has a much different definition of sin than fundamental religion. He uses the true definition that sin is an ancient archery term "to miss the mark." So to be poor, one is "missing the mark." Our natural state is abundance so being poor is missing the mark. If one is poor this doesn't damn them to hell or anything else. Also, being poor is a state of mind whereas being broke is a temporary condition.

        Regarding the Libertarian party, keep in mind that Randy's primary message is to think for yourself. I enjoy Randy's view on things as it has me think. And I don't always agree with everything he says nor do I worship him nor is he looking for that. he's done his job with me as he gets me thinking. I am an independent asI think for myself. The two traditional political parties are riddled with group think and are completely out of integrity with what it is they say they believe. For example, I live in a wealthy Republican county where free-markets and small government is preached. However, these same people overwhelmingly voted down having medical marijuana facilities. Huh? What gives? The Libertians are more congruent, though I don't agree with all their positions.

        1. Hey Joe-
          FYI- The Hebrew word for "sin" is literally translated to English as "to miss the mark". This is a very Jewish understanding and definition of sin.
          Jeanne

    2. Now for anyone that is wondering...

      As you know, I've had issues in the past with Annie's inability to debate the issues without bring personal attacks into the equation. So after last week, I decided that going forward, if this happened again, I would have to move her comments into the Spam folder.

      When I read her comment above, that was my first instinct. However, in fairness to her, that wouldn't be justified today.

      The last thing I want this space to be is politically correct. When I post something, you're going to get the unvarnished truth of what I believe and am working on in the moment.

      And I do feel the people referenced above have used the cloak of God and religion to spread evil. For that reason, I specifically listed them by name, believing their practices deserve condemnation in any just and prosperous society. In doing so with them, that leaves me up as fair game as well. So Annie's comment will stand.

      -RG

        1. I still stand by this comment (I think you are GREAT!). But, I hope that you don't go away feeling like a victim of false accusations, that wouldn't show a lot of integrity. Instead, I hope you will take it as something you can examine and see if it applies to you or not. I did not give this comment out of malice. As Natalie would say, I did it out of my MAMA BEAR place, to protect a certain group of people that I have advocated for, for years.

      1. Randy if you had the chance to share your views with any of the above people, would you do it? Despite what others may think of you, or how crazy they call you? Because that is what I am doing here. Partly anyway.

        Before, I go, I also want to say for the record I have debated successfully here on this blog without personal attacks. Sometimes my arguments with you got personal. To say I have an inability to debate without personal attacks is a lie, and you know it. What kinds of things would you like to say to Mr. Phelps for instance? Would they be pleasant? Would you even have the guts to go up against him and his supporters? If ever there is a chance to debate old Mr. Phelps, who I agree is just as awful as they come, wouldn't you kinda want to send me? 🙂 I mean really wouldn't you like to see me take on some of those Guys up there?!? You know you do, well anyway you dream about what that might look like.

        Annie

      1. I am confused by this one, too. Maybe it needs clarification, Randy. I see it as two different words - one being the regular definition of 'truth', as it is in lower-case. Note Randy's use of it in both cases. The second being 'Truth', as partially defined in the article. I would see 'Truth' as the world seen by the eyes of source (or God or universe, and that of the full unlimited/abundant potential of each person. In other words, prosperity is just the way it is, unless beliefs/habits perpetrate the person's conscious and subconscious ways. Lack, in any way it manifests itself, is our choice. It's wonderful, as it gives us the ability to clarify with stronger distinction that which we want in our lives. It is important not to live/ruminate in that lack.
        -John

          1. Isn't it actually relative to all of these things. For instance, we have certain politicians who are strict constitutionalists but don't adhere to "We hold these TRUTHS to be self-evident that all men are created equal". How come everyone isn't equal under their constitution? So is it Truths or the Real Truth, or the Real Truth As They See It? The only real truth is when you hear someone say it or can prove that they actually wrote it. The only thing that is true about what they said or wrote is that they actually said or wrote it. And to Annie, "I will return in the same manner which I left." Tell me where that came from and you are not a fundamentalist, you are a believer because the Truth is that it was really spoken.

            1. Great point, Christopher. Haven't you seen the fine print on the constitution after "all men are created equal" it says in fine print, "unless you're not one of us. " 🙂

    3. Costa Rica! Nice!!!

      My step-mother attends church every single day....

      She speaks of death as something greater than life..., and cannot wait to leave Earth.....
      Seeing life as suffering...., she proclaims that she is happy....And encourages me to embrace Christ...

      And that is my step-mother's truth....

      The truth is.... my step-mother's truth scares me...

      So I choose my own truth:

      I love life and see it as a beautiful experience... There is soooo much to learn..., soooo much to see...., soooo much to experience... And soooo little time....

      I find it interesting that all of the religions want me to surrender to someone or something...
      Well..., my truth is... I do not surrender to anyone or anything..., to surrender would be suicidal..., and would mean loosing myself...
      It is because of this self...., that I am capable of leading myself instead of being a follower...
      It is because of this self...., that I choose to take responsibility for my life....instead of sinking into a swamp of victim hood...

      And even though I do not belong to any religious doctrine, I live by the similar guide lines of right and wrong...
      Of course I make mistakes...., but how else would I learn and shape my character..., chiseling of which... is a lifelong process...

      Happiness and achievement of my happiness is the meaning of my life....Courage and integrity are my tools... And my self is the vehicle..., as no one else can make me happy, except for me, myself and I....

      I believe that happiness comes from within...., and no matter of what material things I may posses...., they will not make me happy if I am not happy with who I am....

      And that is my real truth....

      As always, happy with me, myself and I...
      Victoria

      My step-mother's truth scares me....

      1. Victoria, I always enjoy and admire your posts...but this one really grabbed me. Love this line: "Happiness and achievement of my happiness is the meaning of my life...courage and integrity are my tools...and my self is the vehicle..." Thanks for always taking the time to share your insights and broaden the impact of Randy's Blog. You're much apppreciated!

        -Sean

        1. BTY, I probably add more value to your posts than you imagine. I don't need you to say so. Just hope one day you see...

          Annie

          1. Annie- There's your need for approval kicking in again. You may want to examine that and see where it is limiting you in your life. It's one of the biggest limiting factors in people's lives.

      2. I love your posts too Victoria, although we may not agree on everything, we stand for what we believe in!

        I am very happy with myself too, I have courage in promoting the truth when everyone is against it. Try as I do, to promote your truths in a place where others don't want to see it, it helps to define even more who you are, trust me, I KNOW! It is scary, but at the end of the day you know, no matter what anyone else thinks of you or your values, you had the courage to stand for something you believe is TRUTH! I love my independent ass kicking self, for sure 😉

        Annie

        1. Annie-

          With all due respect, people that truly love and respect themself aren't so angry all the time as you express here on this blog. Just my humble opinion.

      3. Love your post. As Wayne Dyer says, "there is no way to happiness, happiness is the way." Shawn Achor, in his ground breaking book, "The Happiness Advantage," provides scientific data to show that happiness is a precursor to success, not a result of it. This book is a must read.

    4. Interesting and thought provoking article. Makes me want to attain my truths.
      thanks for making me think

    5. Randy, great topic...I'd love to hear you expand a bit more on this...maybe a follow up post? Enjoy Costa Rica!!

      -Sean

        1. LOL! Now that was funny Annie! 😉

          PS: Btw, it's Randy's birthday so maybe you can do ONE post on all the nice things you love about him instead? I promise to read that. 😉

          1. Thanks Jamie! I was actually just going to be quiet for a change as a birthday gift. 🙂 Since it is the same post as yesterday, maybe I will come up with something really nice for the Big Guy. 🙂

            Annie

    6. Hmmmm. I pretty much tune out when religion gets brought into "truth" discussions but I couldn't pass this one up.

      What if truth has nothing to do with religion but is more about our alignment with our own inner values?

      What if truth is often confused with "being right" about how life works?

      What if truth is our greatest measure of success -- the line between doing what it takes and doing what is most authentic?

      I have a fundamental Mormon father and a spiritual "new thought" mother. I don't need a religion to tell me what is my truth -- but I do value the reflection of when I'm out of whack with my own truth (just wrote a blog post about it today.)

      So...I'll stir the pot a bit and add that from my point of view truth has nothing to do with any religion but is about our ability to stay true to the role we were born to play in the face of others telling you its wrong.

      Melanie

      Interesting post Randy. Personally I'd rather hear more about Costa Rica! =-)

    7. When we pick up The Truth, it is usually to bash someone else with it.

      We will do well to just look for our own Truth and drop the "The".

      Living our own Truth takes courage and love, and we must love our self enough to want our Truth.

      All it takes to buy into The Truth is fear.

    8. Are you kidding Randy????
      Do you come to Costa Rica, when?, where are you going to be?

      I can´t wait to meet you in person !!!!(well... as you let it be, hahaha)

      Best

    9. INABILITY to debate without personal attacks? Please restate that, as it is written it is not the TRUTH! It is your attempt to discredit me, which usually launches me into personl attacks. Play fair.

      See how easy it is to accept something blindy as the truth, even when it is about us, and it is not even true?

      That is not my truth RANDY, no matter what you say.

      Annie

      PS I still think you are great. 🙂

    10. Today I decided to do some clearing work around my social-phobia, aka shyness. That social-phobia has been a Fact of my life so far.
      The Truth, however, is that humans are social beings. Shyness, social-phobias, are human-add-ons.

      I am reminded of something Randy has said in other media, about how it is Natural for humans to expect to get their needs fulfilled. We are born with that expectation, but we learn to expect otherwise.

      To my mind, TRUTH is how-we-are, naturally: social, aware of our ultimate one-ness, secure, trusting, prosperous, etc.

      This is not about My Truth, but The Truth.

      My desire is that my life be an expression of The Truth.
      I am in the process of clearing out a bunch of Factual garbage, all the ways-of-being and so on (including 'religious' perceptions) that I've collected over a longish life, and which, I realize, no longer serve me (if they ever did).

      I don't want to live "my truth" anymore; all that mental-emotional crud. I'm ready to live The Truth - as the being I was born to be, the ideal human 'God' had in mind when I was created.

      Randy, you seem to have a pretty good handle on The Truth, you seem to live a pretty ideal, indeed an idyllic, life. So, I trust your wisdom, even when your ideas are pretty different from mine....or perhaps, Especially when your ideas are different from mine.

      Thanks for shining a new light - Mrs. H&P

    11. ok, this is worded a bit confusing but that's because it's the end of the day and I'm tired.

      Here's my perspective of Truth.

      Truth is reality, love. It is what exists apart from everyone's perception of it. We are Truth because we exist but we are a fragment or a piece of the whole...and our point of view allows us to see only what we can see. Thus our viewpoint is "our" truth. Our reality.

      You really can't argue anyone else's perception of reality because all that anyone is saying is this is what "I" see. But what we can do is choose how we wish to see reality based on what we want to experience in this life, which usually has to do with what feels really right to our souls.

      When we die, it's is my belief that we get to see the whole of reality..merge into it without our separateness...at times when we loose our viewpoint and boundaries we can also experience a bit of this too (Ultimate Truth) but if we want to move, speak, create, live we have to move out of that space and doing so breaks that vision. We then create an expression of that experience.

      We are Truth. Our expressions and beliefs can be in alignment with who we really are or they can be a little off. But all expressions are a form of creation and all of creation is a reflection of Truth.

      If we like our lives keep expressing it that way! If we don't, change our viewpoint, expression and beliefs...but you never have to change who you are...because who you are is and always will be Truth, love, real. You can't change that...you can only connect with it and express it the best you can.

      1. I agree, Eve! THE Truth is eternal & universal. "My Truth" and "Your Truth" are somewhat less than that! Our Truths may differ, indeed, they'll almost certainly do differ.
        I believe our challenge is to hold our personal Truth rather lightly, letting go of that limited perspective when we are presented with information or ideas that come a little closer to matching THE Truth.

        It seems to me that Randy's Truth is quite a lot closer to THE Truth than my Truth is. The evidence certainly points in that direction. If I had Randy's cleaner, clearer awareness of THE Truth, I'd be....more prosperous, amongst other things.

        Oh well....he's been working deliberately on the Getting True project for a bit longer than I have. I'll get there. I'm on my way...My Truth is more and more in alignment with THE Truth. Thanks, Randy, for your help~ Gratefully, Mrs. H&P

        1. Yes, Mrs. H&P, just a different perspective.

          I believe....since we are a part of reality/Truth..when we hear someone expressing in a way that reminds us of our inner nature it rings true for us. Awakens the real you. Helps to remove the cobwebs and illusions that can gather. To clarify ourselves/visions. Keep us inspired.

          I am a very creative person so sometimes my own expression gets in the way of what I try to say. Sometimes I hear it said plain as day and I'm like, YES! That's what I meant!!

          I think when new ideas are presented to us it can help us clear away our clouds and bring us closer to "our" truth. But I don't think it brings us closer to "The Truth" as if we are all suppose to percieve in one way. We need all different perceptions for the greater harmony to work. But we do need to learn how to get along with other perceptions. But that doesn't mean we are obligated to let every different perception into our inner space (mind, home, lives,hearts). It just means we don't have to fight them, try to kill them or even try to convert them.

          Truth is also a matter of degree. If I'm in a dream and a dream character asks me what color shirt I'm wearing I can tell the truth and say green. Another person who hears me talking in my sleep can say you are not wearing a green shirt! So there's different truths and many conflicts have to do with miscommunication as well as different perception.

          Were all in different places, needing different experiences for our souls journey. I think it's best when we find our truth and create space for it to grow while weeding our own garden of the thoughts and perceptions that choke out our intentions.

          But even if we weed dandelion greens out of our garden it doesn't mean dandelion greens are inherently evil or bad or have no use! They are great cleansing herbs! So it all depends on what we want to grow in our garden rather than needing to find the Ultimate Truth..or to know what is good and what is evil. All we need to know is what is good for us in our garden.

    12. Hello Randy,

      Are you in Costa Rica now? Will be there a conference or something?

      Please provide me some information, I assisted in your first visit here but I am not updated with Agel movement here in CR.

      Thank You

      Esteban

    13. 'When our primary response to differences of opinion is unconditional acceptance, we demonstrate the legitimacy of our belief in humanity's fundamental right to self-determination. However much we might wish that the people with whom we share our environments might adopt our beliefs and values, we can nonetheless understand that the paths they have chosen to walk are likely serving them well at this point in their lives. We choose not to engage in debates or arguments regarding individual ideologies because we are tolerant of others' views as a matter of course."

      I read this today and felt it was very connected to this post. I don't know that I completely agree with the serving them well part, there are people out there right now walking paths that are possibly not serving them well in the moment, but are a part of the bigger picture of the journey they are on to get to the Truth of who they really are.

      Here's how I understand it:
      Wellness, Abundance, and Prosperity is EVERYONE'S Truth. At our core, that is the Truth of who we are. Fact is your reality right now, in the present moment. Like Randy said, you might be sick, but Wellness is at the core of who you really are. You might not be in the place you want to be, but knowing the Truth of who you really are and learning step by step how to live your Truth is being on the path of getting to the place you should be in, the place you so rightly deserve. It's a fact that people are poor, sick, and broke, and a whole other story all together when you believe that you have to stay that way or you have no choice in the matter.

    14. How uncanny! These posts are sooo timely. Yesterday I nipped into a department store to buy some elastics for my daughter's hair. When I went to pay I discovered my wallet had been stolen from my bag. My heart sank as I thought of all the hassle of renewing passport, driving licence, bank cards etc not to mention the wad of cash. I ran outside but there were a few exits to the store and I imagined they were probably long gone. I thought my only hope is to pray for the crazy and seemingly impossible scenario - that somehow that red wallet would re appear in the flesh! My fervent prayer was interrupted by a voice over the loudspeaker that said - "could Hilary Moore please come to the cash desk on the first floor." In an elated state of gratitude and anticipation I raced downstairs. I was sure my perpetrators had taken the cash and dumped the rest and I had to pinch myself when I was handed a wallet totaly intact - cash and all! A plain clothed security guard in the shop had witnessed the whole episode and caught them red handed! At this point the real heat started. The police were called in and I was asked if I wanted to press charges on these 2 girls who had just arrived from Bulgaria. If I did they'd go to prison, if I didn't they'd go free. I asked how long they'd spend in prison and was told a few months! Some people, like my father, would not hestitate and say - what they did was unequivicobally wrong - lock them up immediately etc etc ( my father is a very devout Christian) and one of his favorite expressions is " but that is WRONG!" He has a very clear sense of what is right and what is wrong. Life would be so much easier for me if I did too but I couldn't help feel sorry for these girls and wondered if I came from a country where there is very little work, and if I had no money to feed my children and no knowledge of enlightening blogs or supportive communities maybe I'd be doing the same thing. I told the policeman it was not my responsability to implement the law. The truth is these girls were stealing and stealing is wrong - even if Shakespeare said there is no right or wrong but thinking makes it so - but I did not feel it was my responsability to decide their fate over the next few months. Many ideas went through my mind at this stage - if they are released now - they'll find another victim as soon as they are out of here or would their close shave with the prospect of a potential period in prison be enough to deter them from such activities? And is prison really the solution? After all people who do 20 years in prison when released often repeat the same crime - but maybe they should be removed from society to protect innocent victims. Yet many people when in prison get all kinds of ideas from inmates that they do worse things when they get out. However, if I am ultimately responsible for everything that happens to me, I should have taken more care and not made myself a target, with a bag that was pretty easy to access. Now my heart was really beating and I was the one beginning to feel guilty! I asked to know the truth in this instance. Then the story of Jesus' compassion for the robbers on the cross came to me when he said - "Father forgive them for they not not what they do." I am not a fundamentalist 'tho I was raised with biblical principles. I was feeling such ambiguity I wished I knew the truth to what was really right and what was wrong in such a moment. I totally embrace everything you say in this post re OUR choice of truth in our own lives pertaining to our prosperity and health etc but when we have to chose what is right for others - thats not so easy. Personally I chose to love everyone that comes into my life and never judge anyone. I felt it would be irresponsible to let them go but at that moment I was so aware of my abundance and prosperity ( not just in the material realm) and their lack of consciousness. I couldn't even speak to them as they only spoke Bulgarian. I guess my father would say - and that's exactly why the law exists so you dont have to go through such torturous decisions. I remember someone in a recent blog raised this topic and said they thought prisoners were such because of the lack of love they had received and that punishment is not the solution.
      I would like to know if other people go through such dilemas or if people have clearly defined ideas of right and wrong in such incidences.
      I apologise if this has been a really long post but this predicament seems relevant to a few of the recent posts on values, ethics, good, evil, morality and truth.

      PS. Another thing that is timely and almost spooky about this post. Yesterday a friend of mine who I have known for years told me he is paying big storage costs on hundreds of thousands of pieces of merchandise he has no time to look after. The funny thing is the contents of those boxes are the latest and greatest magnifying glasses!!

    15. For anyone discussing this subject:

      If you think you're Right, you are Right. If you think you're Wrong, you're Right too. And that is Tru(e)th.

      Gerrit

      Ps. Randy, have a wonderful, blessed day, full of love from connected souls!

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