In all kinds of hatred there is a separation by which each misjudges the other. In all kinds of love there is a mystic union by which each knows the other.
It’s past 2 am and I should be asleep after a long day. But I couldn’t rest, because of the unease I had at the news of the death of Osama bin Laden. I found some peace in the words above, written by James Allen in one of his lesser-known books, Eight Pillars of Prosperity.
After watching the statement from President Obama, I put the following post on my Facebook page:
US troops have killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan. Thank you to our troops, intelligence officers, Presidents Bush and Obama and all of our allies. We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to you all.
It had almost a hundred “likes” in a matter of minutes and comments started streaming in below it immediately. Cornelia sad it sickened her and suggested I was a bad Christian because I was rejoicing in the death of another. Others quoted the Bible, justifying fighting fire with fire. Yet others celebrated the death and took the chance to make jokes about it.
Even at this hour, boats in the bay are blowing their air horns in celebration. TV is showing wild celebrations at the White House and at Ground Zero. I’m sure Toby Keith is already writing his next testosterone-brimming anthem about it, and Country radio stations are salivating to put it in heavy rotation.
But is this a time for celebration and rejoicing? Is there any prosperity consciousness in that?
I think not. In disclosure I should state I was vehemently opposed to the foreign policy of former President Bush and believe it fostered a great deal of hatred in the Muslim world. And as I replied to Cornelia, I don’t rejoice in the death of anyone, even a person as despicable and evil as Osama Bin Laden. I do rejoice that he no longer can mastermind more attacks that will murder more innocent civilians. But this isn’t time for a party.
Had some of the plots against Adolf Hitler succeeded, many thousands or perhaps even millions of lives would have been saved. Hitler’s death was announced on this same exact date in 1945. But had I been alive then, I wouldn’t have seen that as cause for a party either.
The fact that we have Hitler’s, bin Laden’s, Gadhafi’s and Castro’s tells me that we’ve lost the plot. Maybe their deaths are the highest good for the human race. I don’t know, and it’s not for me to decide. But I do know a night like tonight isn’t a cause to party and celebrate. It would better serve us to pause and reflect on how we ever let things get this far off course to begin with.
Sympathy and empathy, which are truly some of the purest forms of love, would lead us to look into the hearts of our brothers and sisters around the world. To seek to understand and accept, and find that union that Allen wrote of.
The true message of Islam is love. As is the true messages of Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Shinto, Confucianism, Taoism, and other major religions.
We’ve let organized religion get sidetracked with doctrines and dogma. And in some circles we’ve let this all get portrayed as a war between Islam and the West. But that perception isn’t truth, and it’s keeping the world from experiencing true prosperity.
Confucius taught that enlightenment came from perfecting five virtues. He expressed them in one: Reciprocity. Buddha taught enlightenment came from eight virtues. And he reduced these down to one: Compassion.
Tao, or the path, teaches that people are good by nature, and that one should be kind to others simply because. Zoroastrians dedicate their lives to a three-fold path represented by their motto: “Good thoughts, good words, good deeds.”
The Jews also believe in the inherent goodness of the world and its inhabitants. They see everyone as creations of God who do not require a savior to save them from original sin. True followers of Shinto desire peace and believe all human life and nature is sacred. The five pillars of Islam would bring anyone closer to peace. Hindus seek salvation in selfless acts and thoughts. Jesus reduced everything to the principle of love.
Today an evil man has died. But instead of breaking out the champagne and party favors, maybe we should break out the prayer books and reflect on those virtues of reciprocity, compassion, good deeds, peace, goodness, salvation and love.
When we can do that, then it’s really time for the party!
I am glad that OBL is dead, but there was something bothering me about seeing us celebrating in the streets. I had to think about why. It's not because of what you said in your post, Randy, but because I remember how angry I got when I saw others in the Islamic world celebrating when our troops were getting killed. Perhaps it's human nature to act this way, but it saddens me that we behave in a similar fashion.
I totally agree with you, very sad that we act this way.
I know what you are saying but I think that's part of the point. "We" who? It implies an "us" and "them" which allows for the separation of which Mr. Allen wrote.
Wow.This is exactly what I wanted to say if I was abled to express it like you can.Thank you!
If God (or Allah or however you choose to call your personal entity) is truly allknowing I think that, should Osama (or Hitler or whoever) truly believed that what he or she did was right (even if we humans find their actions despicable), he would know that Osama (..) simply could not act any different (unless he choose to not honor his own beliefs) and therefor should be allowed in heaven (or paradise). We human have one huge flaw; we pretend that God is as limited in his thinking as we are.
Namaste means I honor the divinity in you. Outcomes like war that leads to more war is a choice to dishonor the divinity of each other, and the prolongment of those same choices will just produce the same results.
Wars are not started by governments. They are started by people. First within ourselves, then with each other, then with our environment, and then with nations. Honor the divine within ourselves & then the rest will follow. We each need to choose every moment to stand for love & not for fear. Even if the whole world is reacting with fear, we must remember retaliation & force is not a product of love, and it brings us off the path. Religion is just an excuse.
This post was necessary at this very moment. Thank you for writing it. Loving you lots.
I dont think we are more safe now then before - Bin Laddens followers belive in revenge and will do anything to give the western world pay back - the only positive thing I see here is that justice has taken place yet in its most cruel and unhumane way !
And no - a life wheater good or bad - has been taken so it's no time for a party !
Thanks for sitting down and writing this. I awoke in Italy this morning to see posts on Facebook rejoicing on the death of a bad man.
I asked myself who is this "bad man", "Is Gheddafi dead?".
Wow, I was shocked to read it was Osama Bin Laden, but I was also shocked to see how happy people were to see someone dead.
I felt a kind of emptiness.
Who are we to judge? 'Let him who has not sinned cast the first stone'.
Ok so few people have orchestrated killings like Bin Laden, but people do vibrate messages of hate when they send hate to one person alone, or an entire population of people, as has happened in the rift created between the Muslim world and 'the other so called religions'.
I would agree with you Randy that it is a time of reflection of where we intend going and if we are so "right"in our beliefs, why are so many people suffering?
By the way, I don't know how much has changed with the death of Bin Laden, a man as powerful as him is only as powerful as the team behind him. With messages of hatred being sent it only creates more.
It's time to truly reflect on peace and put our own selfishness behind us.
Can we picture ourselves celebrating peace? I challenge you to practise Peace today to ALL members of our world.
A difficult task but by no means impossible if we truly love "our" God and ourselves.
Hmm...I don't think we let ourselves off the hook by saying, "Who are we to judge?" The world is one of competing interests and ideologies. Violence is part of that pursuit, no matter how much we may wish it wasn't. There are those who actively plot to attack and kill our citizens. We have a military and intelligence services to pursue and defeat those who do so. Osama Bin Laden chose his role. The successful attack on his compound and his person was a fully justifiable action. Should we REJOICE at his death, no...that is unseemly. Should we take grim satisfaction and solace from a necessary consequence of the actions he put in motion, absolutely. The US is not without its own sins. But our country does not have to be perfect to actively protect ourselves. We will use deadly force against those who have attacked us and seek to inspire others to continue to do so. For that we can be a judge, and must.
I'm glad this evil supression from Osama have been stopped. But it always makes me sad when a life is taken by human hand. It is not ours to take. It could be solved in other ways. Beautiful post Randy!
The world will not change anytime soon and will continue, for quite a while, to give us reason, every day, to:
"... break out the prayer books and reflect on those virtues of reciprocity, compassion, good deeds, peace, goodness, salvation and love."
While I don't see bin Laden's death as a reason for dancing in the streets, I do see the world as a much safer place without him in it.
Let us not forget how many thousands of lives were lost because of bin Laden, well before 9/11. US embassy attacks in Africa, the USS Cole attack, the 1993 WTC bombing, 2005 attack in London, all were ordered by bin Laden and carried out by al Quida.
I can only hope that bin Laden's demise brings closure to the families of those who died as a direct result of his beliefs.
Randy, I will be very honest, I was judging you by that comment on facebook and I read what I wanted to read... that you were rejoicing by . But I stopped and ask myself, what is he really saying...After reading this post I realize that yes... When the world realize that we are one and the same, then we can stop and celebrate.
That being said, I hope in my heart that Osama's departure from this world will put an end to AlQaeda, but I doubt it. It's celebrations like the ones outside the white house that will infuriate them more. I hope I am wrong.
Greeting from an Ecuadorian who lives in the Middle East.
I am by no means condoning the atrocities he committed, or which were committed under his leadership.
Every loss of life is a tragedy.
It's an even larger tragedy that Osama Bin Laden veered off into this direction in the first place.
But, being killed is not as tragic to me as dying a slow death as you give up all of your energy to other people. I don't care if it's "normal" or your duty, etc.
Osama proves how disastrous sacrificing your life to a "higher power" can be.
This higher power doesn't have to be radical Islam-
It could be your boss who demands you make him look good so he can take the credit for what you produce, while working 80 hours a week, but don't get to see your kids grow up, and you are too worn out to enjoy retirement, which after seeing my grandmother in a nursing home is something which I find disgusting, ghastly, and deplorable.
Sacrifice who you are for 30+ years?
To get a watch that cost the company $20 to buy?
So someone can assist you to go to the bathroom?
So you can burden future generations by taxing them to death so you can get free oat bran?
The Golden Years my butt.
Then we have your Church who tells you and your kids you should live in poverty and being you is sinful, or a needy family member who demeans and controls you for having a dream.
Sorry about the rant, but Randy, I agree, far too many people benefit from people being dumb, sick, and broke.
As a musician, I am aware how counter-intuitive a lot of software and electronic instruments are, and even the material to show people how to use them. It's designed by engineers and programmers, and not very friendly or fun. (I do get some joy out of it, but it did have a steep learning curve)
There are no rules which say something like a Moog synthesizer has to be nerdy, or cost $2500 and use technology from 1967, or that an instrument even needs to look like something we already use.
It could look like a solar system, or petals floating on water, and be art or a toy as much as a tool for making sound. This could get people interested in music who might not otherwise be interested, and it would look cool.
Like many other industries, instead of forging forward, software and hardware manufacturers would rather spend time recreating 30+ year old technology than making something of value.
This has possible applications beyond music too, like designing user interfaces, and creating new ways of processing audio and video.
A little company called Apple once decided that people should be able to use their computers without requiring a pHD.
I think nearly anyone could learn something about music or appreciate it more, but it would have to be more accessible to more people, like the One Laptop Per Child program, but something like that would require a lot of influence and capital, and people valuing it.
This is the second time he has been pronounced dead. This could be a false flag (i.e. that is hasn't just happened, it happened a while ago and the government is only now choosing to release this info). The timing is crook. Do not believe stuff like this hook, line and sinker. It is being used to manipulate the people and line something else up that will be revealed later.
You said: "Maybe their deaths are the highest good for the human race. I don’t know, and it’s not for me to decide."
All the silly rejoicing aside, the fact is that any death that comes as an effect of the perverted state of consciousness that is manifested by such things as wars, the military-industrial complex, presidents like Bush & Obama - all of which is far from any type of prosperity consciousness - cannot lead to a positive outcome.
Although my judgement here is clouded by complete lack of trust in anything that the government has to say, including that they have killed OBL, I think is good to point out that many people, including you RG, slip away from their position in prosperity consciousness whenever politics, war and ultimate bad guys like OBL are concerned.
How can anything that has been achieved from such a despicable state of consciousness be called the highest good for the human race? Also, I've read that someone said that all these years of bloodshed are now worth it, because we got OBL. Really? That's good to know.
Peace out, everybody! I'm going out to clear some of my limiting beliefs and emotions on this subject.
Randy, here's what I see in this mishmash. You wrote: "US troops have killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan. Thank you to our troops, intelligence officers, Presidents Bush and Obama and all of our allies. We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to you all".
Then in this post you end with: "Today an evil man has died. But instead of breaking out the champagne and party favors, maybe we should break out the prayer books and reflect on those virtues of reciprocity, compassion, good deeds, peace, goodness, salvation and love. When we can do that, then it’s really time for the party!"
That shift sounds like you might have had a 'misjudgement' and so you submit a 'baffle them with BS' post about different religious beliefs that you know most people wouldn't have a clue about in an effort to please your readership, so to speak. Please tell me that's not what this is.
I meant exactly what I said Tony. I wanted to express my gratitude for the service of our troops and intelligence officers. They worked tirelessly (and many lost their lives) to try and prevent more terrorist attacks.
But at the end of the day, bin Laden was acting on beliefs he felt were just. I don't think the attacks he masterminded were the answer, and I don't rejoice in his death. As Allen so eloquently pointed out, that hate and the chasm between the sides shows we have all gotten off track. I pray for peace and I hope you do as well.
Thanks for helping me understand, and yes, of course peace.
The shift still doesn't make sense though.
Here's how I see it.
First Post on FB: Gratitude.
This post: Showing the difference between Celebration and Gratitude. And what we need to be REALLY celebrating...
The death of one man, or the attaintment of a glorious respect and honouring of ALL men.
For those who need more - a look deeper into the essence of religion so we don't judge the Religion of Islam, but know the person needed to be dealt with to create what each and every Religion preaches: love, compassion, kindness, peace and care.
I feel the need to back Randy up here, because I feel i understand the different points of view. On one hand, I believe Osama needed to be taken out and I applaud our president and our military for their diligence and courage. On the other hand, I cannot rejoice in the death of a human being. It was necessary and important, that does not make it a joyous occasion.
The way I see it, this is a time for quiet reflection and solemn gratitude. If the American people want an excuse to dance in the streets, we should wait for our troops to return home safely - that will be a real cause for celebration.
Yeah- I was all about the jokes, and as the "celebrations" continued, I started joking about that.
Today, my status was "Two wrongs don't make a right... but how many osamas does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"
Gloating just doesn't seem right.
That was a good post. I just don't know if wrong is right. But I agree with your point. I definitely have mixed emotions. BTW how many does it take???
If you don't know the answer, the terrorists have won...
Here's my other joke: http://bonesdiary.blogspot.com/2011/05/osamas-dead-lets-party.html
Great points and thank you speaking the truth with such eloquence and straight forwardness!
I really don’t think that Bin Laden’s death is of any consequence or significance. Forces outside of us are never a danger to us unless, through the law of attraction, we invite them in. If we live in a state of fear and have a negative vibration, we are going to invite unpleasant events, whether that be through the hands of Bin Laden or someone/something else. I am sure that governments think that constituents expect retaliation after events like 9/11 – they don’t want to be seen as weak. The US pursued Bin Laden for over 10 years. I consider this a waste of resources and a misdirection of energy. Bin Laden, as well as others like him, serve us all by providing the contrast we need to distinguish between what we want and don’t want out of life. Without poverty you cannot fully appreciate wealth. Without sickness you cannot fully appreciate health. Without evil you cannot fully appreciate goodness. When you choose happiness, Bin Laden will never enter into your life.
More than an end to war, we want an end to the beginnings of all wars- Roosevelt.
Well said Carmen, well said!!
I believe your thoughts are right on .It is hard for people to think this way.But I truly feel the same.
I have been struggling with the same thoughts ,Thank you for putting it out there ,not an easy thing to do.
I agree totally with your post is that the celebration is not in the killing, it is in the relief that this madman is no longer around.
I also think it is ironic that this happened on Barack Obama's watch and that he made this priority number one. It has to quiet those who claimed he was not being aggressive because he was Muslim. Maybe Donald Trump will actually shut up for a couple of days.
The killing of OBL is symbolic. At best it will re shuffle the terrorists management team. I think this is a time to reflect about what is going on. I think it is a time to build on our friendship with Pakistan.
There will always be the "might makes right" crowd. The evengelical christians who are the "American Taliban" and al queada. I also have to remember that the Muslims did not like this man and are just as glad he is gone.
I think one needs to be more intellectually honest about putting "right wing" evangelical Christians on the same level as the Taliban and a violent terrorist organization. They are not even remotely equivalent. Certainly we can disagree but really?
When I saw your initial message last night, Randy, I thought to myself - well, here's something that Randy and I definitely disagree on ... and that doesn't happen very often. 😉 I'm happy to see you post this today.
For over an hour last night, I was the only person in my Twitter stream that was not gleefully rejoicing that a pre-meditated murder had been committed to vindicate other pre-meditated murders.
I did not join the masses in celebration and joke telling. Instead, I expressed my own sadness. I was not the voice of the majority ... and I was okay with that, because I trust my heart.
All I could think was that 'an eye for an eye leaves both sides ... blind'.
We are so blind if we think that the death of one man, powerful and influential as he was, means the death, in even a small way, of hatred. We have shown the world that the way to bring Peace and Tolerance is to annihilate those who stand against it. How can we celebrate and be proud of that?
Hate the message of Bin Laden's mistaken thinking, yes ... but be careful not to hate the messenger. He came here to show us an error in thinking. Bless him for the gift he gave us and forgive him for his barbaric actions. It is the only true way to freedom and evolution ... for all of us.
And what now? We must stay in our hearts. Because it is the only real and true and safe place to live in these times.
Call me Pollyanna. I can handle it. I just know that for me, the loss of a life, any life, will never be a cause for celebration.
I can't believe that I am reading these posts criticizing this. Oh ye who claim to be of great mind yet shallow thought is all I read from you. Senseless killing in the name of any cause or for no cause is a device of evil. This man killed anyone who disagreed with his ideology, including those of his own faith. Just as hitler killed Germans who sympathized with Jews during his reign of terror. This will not be the last evil we will encounter, but we cannot stand idly by and allow senseless killing as it is the device of evil. Take a moment and recognize that is only human to celebrate the erasure of evil. The world celebrated when Paris was liberated. The world celebrated on VE day. Why would they not celebrate today. I think the almighty will will give them a pass for this one. To the ones who will criticize this and say that this will breed more, I say it will always be bred while people use the loving books of the world to push their evil misrepresentation of Gods will. I personally cried because I thought of all of the those senselessly killed and then cried again for those who will be spared from this evil man.
When I received the news of his death I did not rejoice. I felt unsatisfied, thats the best word I could describe it. Really.. But I became discouraged and annoyed when I saw people rallying in the streets to celebrate. I could not have found a worse time to be doing that. I know expressing how I really feel would buy me some bad comments and accusations of being "Un-American."
First of all I'm a spiritual Being before I consider myself an American. Whats more important? I do love my home land, but most of all I value life, Freedom and the Pursuit of Happiness... What America Stands for!! How is that being un-American? Killing one man is not going to end the hatred toward us. People fear what America stands for. Its unknown to them and that is changing their societal views.. We can understand that. All of us can relate to fearing something we don't understand, and the change that is brought along with that misunderstanding..
That one man will only be replaced by other just as evil man, or men, if all we do is keep sending them more hate. We will only get hate back. Its time to show Love, and Compassion. Show them the capacity we are ALL capable of doing! Because first and foremost we are Spiritual Beings having a Human Experience... Forgive my grammar and punctuation, but you do get my point. 🙂
Lots of Love!
Natalie, the we is all of us, united as one. All of us who believe that the loving books of the world should not be misrepresented for evil purposes. You are the one who is programmed by the us and them mentality. This mentality is unfortunately been blown out because it has been radical Muslim ideology. Don't forget that us and them was Hindu versus Muslim when India split and the country of Pakistan was born. It is still us and them in their regard. My definition of we is all of us, united as one.
I'm not too sure why this is adressed to me - or if your "Natalie" is me....
And in case it is... I'll answer...
In the absolute realm - we is One. In the causal body, there is only One, and that is All.
In the relative realm - the physical and sublte bodies are seperate and collective, but not one. My physical body is MINE. Not yours - hands off!!! My emotions and thoughts - while influenced by others - join and seperate and grow and change with my input, and my focus...
And we live in a NON-DUAL world - where both the absolute and relative co-exist. It's a "both/and" existance. We are One, and individual & cultural beings....
Party when there's peace.
I enjoyed your post, Randy. We won't know if bin Laden's death will reduce terrorism until some time has passed. We can only assume, and hope, that losing the living influence of bin Laden may result in a diffusion of the hateful energy he fostered.
Seeing Americans celebrating in the streets is unsettling and, in my mind, no different from the demonstrations and celebrations by our "enemies" of US defeats that I've seen in TV broadcasts. I feel some sadness about what those displays say about our ideals.
I totally agree with what you wrote. I was talking to someone about this a little while ago. I know that the death of Osama bin Laden represents closure for many people, but I have a hard time rejoicing in the death of anyone no matter what. It just doesn't feel right and I can't explain why. Someone was interviewed on TV who was outside the White House and they said they wanted to join in on the festivities because it was patriotic. Is it though? Are we any different than the images we see of people in the middle east celebrating our misfortune?
Not to seem “heretical” or disrespectful on this blog, but OBL was one of the greatest MEMES of our time.
Though he did indeed exist, his status as Greatest Boogeyman was a total fabrication of US gubment (as we say in the South) and mass media.
Some serious research on what many world leaders and foreign intel officials said about OBL would bear this out.
Even Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto publicly declared OBL dead shortly before she was assassinated in Dec, 2007.
It seems to me that the euphoria on the part of many Americans concerning his apparent demise reveals a remarkable example of tribal-consciousness and lack of critical thinking.
Good to see that the people who left comments on your blog demonstrated a higher level of awareness.
And the direction you took on this matter is very admirable.
The real “answer” is love, compassion, and a higher level of Prosperity thinking.
Randy, I have a worry - sometimes I have to ask the question, is the Devil we know better than the one we do not?
There will be a successor to bin Laden, you can bet on that. But will he have the intelligence, the funds and the machinery that Osama had and will he resort to more vicious tactics than his predecessor to gain his goals, whatever they may be?
I was in Iran when they kicked the Shah out - the people rejoiced but I warned them then that their lives would be different. Within 6 months there was unease and as has been seen recently, riots are now starting within Iran to dispose the current corrupt and ruthless leadership. It is said that Saddam Hussain was bad for his people, but what sort of life have they had since his demise? And what about Libiya?
In Northern Ireland, we had the Provisional IRA but we turned them into so-called politicians. We now have a system which cannot be cohesive and make decisions as each party runs a seperate Government Department, according to that party's wishes. The Result? Nothing gets done and once more, we have terrorism in Belfast, only this time they refer to them as "dissidents" and not the true description of terrorists.
I have to ask the question - is it time for your country and mine to stop interfering in the running of the rest of the world and just look after our own? 9/11 was on "home ground" and whilst I am not in anyway condoning it or supporting bin Laden, I just wonder if it would have happened if your troops and mine stayed at home and left the rest of the world to sort out their own problems. Just a thought!
By all accounts, there is no one in al Qaeda who has the cult of personality to bring in recruits like bin Laden did. This certainly is a serious blow to them. Only time will tell how they rebound.
Randy, I couldn't have said it better,Thank you for this very important message.
When I heard that people were partying,I got a very uneasy feeling,even though I am happy that Bin Laden is not around anymore to hurt more innocent people.I can't rejoice though.Maybe years back I would have been partying too,but knowing what I know now I can't rejoice.
Once again thank you so much ,for making me realize,that I have grown as a person and that even though I am not sad about his death,I cannot rejoice either.I believe,that this is a time for prayer and thoughts for peace,which is what really will take care of all terrorism and evil.
God bless you.
Just stopped back to read some of the comments here. You have drawn together such an amazing community.
I thought that Bin Laden had been dead for years.He was diabetic or something like that. Were there any death photos of him?
The game is not to judge anymore, the game is to love...
The game is not to fear but believe in your self and as yourself express your light, express your love... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pH2TdAt1t8
I can see that american people will partying when this man finally where catched by the legendary Navy Seals, who else ?
One thing that comes to my mind is that this will not be the end of a story that has no beginning...
Will this keep us lesser afraid of strange etnics or different fait?
By no means. As long as we are competing on who has made the right choice, we will probably always disrespect others who have another opinion.
When I train to improve my thinking on prosperity and abundance I come to the insight that it does not really matter what side i choosed. In fact, acceptance is a key to release fear in this type of relations.
If you stick to your plan you have nothing to regret .
Alf Andersen Stockholm Sweden
Balderdash. All of this is meaningless nonsense.
The madness to make sense of 'it' all is all part of the magic act? Please get back to something worth my time and energy.
Hi Randy, Love is definitely the answer, not war! There is only one race, the human one. Once we truly love, honor and respect all of our brothers and sisters no matter what the differences are between us, then and only then can we evoke true and lasting love and peace. This means that we have an understanding that we are all connected, and the loss of a soul at the hands of violence will never net anything but more violence. Thanks for your post. Thanks to every loving and caring person who commented on this post. Truly a great community!
Randy I am shocked you seem so Bright!! The Evil Men are right there in the White House!! They need our prayers!! Enjoy the live movie production!! Theater at its Best!! Osama Bin Laden Meets Obama Bin Lying!!!
Lol, i couldn't agree with you more.
Good post, Randy, for those who want to pay attention to what's going on in the world. The flowers are still blooming in my garden, and I am still fostering peace in my heart to the best of my ability.
Peace in the world starts in our hearts. I am so very grateful to those whose hearts full & overflowing with peace are influencing the events in the world. Their influence may not be as obvious are the work of the warriors - but somehow, in ways unseen, they are changing the world. Thank you Thank you Thank you.
Though the OBL killing is not the end to terrorism, how many lives have been saved now that this guy is gone? Let's take things for what they are. This guy was evil and WITHOUT provocation masterminded the deaths of thousands of innocent people, who, I'm sure, were not attracting that on some level. I'm having a harder time reading through some of the pollyanna, touchy-feely messages here than watching the celebrations. Sorry, but on this one I choose to not engage in a higher level of consciousness.
I wonder if the people of Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan came over here and killed one of our leaders or one of our military men, bc of the thousands of people that he has allegedly had a hand in killing, if it would be seen the same by the American people as the killing of Osama Bin Laden. The blatant immorality of rejoicing another's demise only makes me somehow think that I am NOT proud to be an American today.
I was not far from the twin towers when I witness the collapse of both Towers and ask myself who would do such a thing. Well, in learning of the death OBL, there was no reaction or cause for celebration, and so I thought something might be wrong with my response. Of all people, I should be celebrating, I saw the second plane hit, the windows bursting and ...
I am Light Worker and not afraid to admit it. I have no hate in my Being. I understand that we live in a world of duality (love & hate, good & evil, poor & rich), but I also know that it is from our pain that we can experience compassion and our humanness.
Some people will choose to live there life in complete chaos & destruction, and many more will leave their footprints of hope, love and healing. Today, my daughter called me from Orlando and said 'Mom I know we can not speak our Truth while so many celebrate' and I say we must.
And so I say thank you Randy for your Truth and for those that take a stand for something Greater.
May Many Spirits be heal,
"Long awaited goal accomplished...through killing and death. Want to be happy, but it looks like more tragedy"....This is my husbands FB status today. My daughter who lives in DC, was unwilling to go to the White House with her friends to celebrate last night.
As for me, I feel relief and while I personally don't want to go dance in the streets (nor do I think it's the appropriate response), I understand the need of people to express gratitude with an expression of celebration. It's as if 9 years of stress is pouring out.
I do love your words however about taking up our prayers books.
One of the key messages of Passover (which just passed) is that it's OK to celebrate your freedom, but not OK to celebrate the deaths of those who died in the process of you becoming free. There is a part of the story that is told each year when the women break into song because the Red sea swallows up the Egyptians. God admonishes the women for celebrating those deaths, because they are also Gods creations.
It seems like a fitting lesson to wrestle with right now.
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate
for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness:
only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."
Martin Luther King
Here's a good article in the Huffington Post:
The Psychology of Revenge: Why We Should Stop Celebrating Osama Bin Laden's Death
Rather than "What should we think about All This" ...
a more appropriate discussion might be, What do we do, what should we choose to think about, when a Really Big Media Event starts to take over our minds?
It's easy to keep the TV turned off, and the newspapers out of the house, when it's just the common run of bad news that is taking over our minds.
How strong is our mental discipline? Can we maintain a focus on Prosperity, or do we want to think about The News? Should we allow this BIG Media Event to dominate our thinking? I think Not!
How ironic...I'm getting sucked into this whole flapdoodle by participating in this discu....
I remember September 11 very well.... I was a soldier in United States Army...
At that moment all of us (soldiers)were ready and willing to give our lives to protect the lives of all civilians living in this country...
And as all of you know... many soldiers died, so each and everyone of you would feel safe in your own country...
When Bin Laden became an enemy of the United States, the goal was to find him and kill him... This was a common knowledge...
So, now that the goal was hopefully accomplished, I see that there are some who are saying that we should be more compassionate...
Is that how you felt on September 11 ???
Did you feel compassion for the terrorists in those planes???
How did you feel about the civilians in those planes???
Or is it possible that you have forgotten what happened? Have you forgotten about terrosism and its never-ending fret to the civilians of the United States?
Clearly you have...
With that in mind....
I will always celebrate the death of every enemy United States is faced with!
It has nothing to do with hate....
IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH VICTORY!!!!!
The enemy has been destroyed, so celebrate the moment and thank all of the soldiers for doing their job...
And that job is to keep you safe, and that means to prevent any terrorist attacks.
Next time you are in the airplane, will you feel compassion for Bin Laden's death???
I am glad you're still here 🙂
I thought that you were terminated 🙂
You bring life to this blog 🙂 And yes, sometimes you make my blood boil..., but what fun is it when all are in agreement... 🙂
And I also knew about your secret...:) You left several clues here and there... one was: "there is a fine line between love and hate..."
Oh... the heart...what a wonderful thing...
But anyway, I understand the value of the human life... And when it comes to war... things are different... Peace and safety come with a price... The situation with terrorism is very real... and will not be over for a very long time...
Wishing for peace is nice..., but it will not make it happen. Most of the time it takes action which is clearly makes many people uncomfortable...
I also understand that our enemies act in the interests of their own countries, and that, in their countries they are heroes...
But when the enemy crosses the line and starts killing thousands on our soil...; changes our lives forever and plans to attack again and again... - we as Americans have to stand up and experience this thing called - patriotism... instead of feely touchy attitudes... This is not the time for humanitarian point of view...
The enemy must know that we are strong people and that we are not afraid... And believe me.., they are watching... Just because we do not see tanks on our streets..., we are still at war.
And just wishing for peace and love will not make it disappear... And the Good Book will not help either...
Nice to have you back,
I think we live in a global world.
FOr me - I'm NOT American. I live in England and am NOT English.
It's not a matter of the ENEMY of one nation - for that enemy may be the hero of another.
What's important to me is saying we are a GLOBE. It's not all about ONE country.
We are ALL together... if there's is ONE person who is inciting HATRED and DEATH anywhere - s/he needs to be removed into prison or death.
I truly believe in "Love they enemy as thyself."
Just like in any war - within ourselves, with our kids, partners, friends, and work collegues - can we love the person, while also stopping the bad behaviour that perpetuates pain?
It helps me to get understanding and perspective: Osama was the 17th of 50 children - he obviously was latchkey, unloved, felt rejected, and not given enough love and attention as a child to go into a strong, helpful, purposeful life of Love, kindness, and compassion.
Like Hitlet - he didn't get the attachment and healthy bonding he needed to be a member of society that contributes in a wonderful way...
It makes me ponder - is how we often react in a situation like this, also how we often respond to issues in relationship to ourselves and others? My hope is that I become very loving, curious, accepting, empathic, and playful with myself and others - while ALSO being assertive and resisting bad behaviour/habits that harm ourselves, our kids, and our other relationships...
I am an American citizen and love my country very much.
I am against globalization and so far... United States is still an independent country.
I do not believe in loving the enemy as myself, because to love as I do myself, I would have to respect and admire the other.... Therefore, I do not love blindly for the sake of love and acceptance... Love is just a word..., its application is totally different...
If I would analyze the enemy, it wouldn't be for the sake of excusing his behavior. It would be to forecast his future behavior.
Terrorism does not fall under the category of relationships with friends, partners and children... This is not an issue of relationships with ourselves and others.
The reaction to terrorism would be to capture and terminate.
And the final would be to celebrate the victory.
Where is Annie's post (reply to mine)?
Victoria, I was still terminated when I wrote to you. I'm sorry. When I found out you were a soldier I was so excited, that is so cool, I just had to say something.
Randy erases all my posts. But, I'm glad you got to read it.
Hi Randy. As usual a well thought out post. When I first saw the celebrations over the death of Osama bin Laden I thought "we're no better than them!!"
Who says he was the mastermind of all this evil. Are we simply fodder for the propaganda machines of the world? Do we really think this one man had so much power? Is his death the mark of change? Will we just see more, new Osama's spring up to take his place? What good has really been achieved? Given that the President ordered his death, does that make him a murderer? Where are the lines of distinction? Do we really think about things or do we all just run on memes?
It's also interesting that this powerful Muslim leader was constantly portrayed as lurking and hiding in the caves of Afghanistan as some kind of mystical, crazed bandit. Yet here he was living in a huge walled house in a large town near the capital of Pakistan.!! What's that all about? Where is the truth? Truth is perhaps only what we allow ourselves to indulge in. Truth is very subjective, contrary to popular opinion.
This is definately no time for a party. This is a time to reflect and ask, "Who and what created Osama bin Laden?"
Someone once said " There cannot be a slavemaster without slaves". Maybe we can also say "There cannot be an oppressor without terrorists.". Which came first? The chicken or the egg?.
NEVER USE THE HOLLY NAME OF GOD FOR KILL, HE IS LIFE.
Good Morning Randy. Just wanted to say that I agree with everything in your post. Very well put!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what Gandhi had to say:
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall — think of it, always."
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
"There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for."