So Jesus believed in original sin? Control, shame, humiliation.....conflicting values for the New Testament....What happened to our God of love and forgiveness? Oh he's having a barbecue and everyone's invited except the born again Christians from the 5th Baptist Church on the right of Main street in Birmingham Alabama? Cancel my subscription to the resurrection!
Jesus Is Coming – And He Looks Pissed
By Randy Gage in Success.
To celebrate my Christmas morning, I rode my bike along the chain of islands on the Venetian Causeway. I stopped afterward at the park, and just laid on the ground, sucking a blade of grass, taking in the earth energy. It felt like I was communing with God. Which of course, I was.
It got me thinking about the real spirit of the holiday. The fundamentalists will say that Jesus is the reason for the season, but not sure I’m really buying that.
There are a lot of posts on Twitter today from people of all faiths wishing a Merry Christmas to their Christian friends. I wish more Christians adopted that kind of acceptance.
Not sure if Pat Robertson has a Twitter account, but if he did, I could imagine this tweet from him: Merry Christmas 2 all my Christian friends. And the rest of U are going 2 rot and burn in Hell with gnashing of teeth!
Reminds me of a conversation I have last week with my friend Theo Androus. He’s writing a new book with a working title, Christ, In Search of a Christian. We were discussing all the exclusion, hate, and intolerance passing as Christianity today. Unfortunately this is prevalent in most faiths.
The fundamentalists have hijacked the message…
This attitude of ‘we have the only way and everyone else is going to get left behind,’ is certainly not the real message of Jesus. Nor is it the real message of Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Shinto, Confucianism, Taoism, or other major religions.
Organized religion is filled with doctrines and dogma, and the fundamentalists seem to get sidetracked with all that. But the essence of religion – spirituality – is actually quite simple and basic.
Confucius taught that enlightenment came from perfecting five virtues. He expressed them in one: Reciprocity. Buddha taught enlightenment came from eight virtues. And he reduced these down to one: Compassion.
Tao, or the path, teaches that people are good by nature, and that one should be kind to others simply because. Zoroastrians dedicate their lives to a three-fold path represented by their motto: “Good thoughts, good words, good deeds.”
The Jews also believe in the inherent goodness of the world and its inhabitants. They see everyone as creations of God who do not require a savior to save them from original sin. True followers of Shinto desire peace and believe all human life and nature is sacred. The five pillars of Islam would bring anyone closer to peace. Hindus seek salvation in selfless acts and thoughts
And contrary to what some of the TV evangelists would have you believe, Jesus reduced everything to the principle of love. I have to believe if he came back today, he would be shocked, saddened and angry at what is being said and done in his name.
Let’s forget about the dogma, doctrines, and differences, and celebrate the similarities. Reciprocity, compassion, good, peace, love. Those are the real season for the season!
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JEsus christ is a FRAud perpetuated by mankind read jeremiah 10 isiah 42 ezekiel 13 ezekiel 7 among MANY other old tesimate scriptures you all are a bunch of IDIOTIC frauds following FRAUDS. Joahn 10 and i QUOTE jesus states his SHEEP hear his voice and nother they will not FOLLOW. isiah 42 states and i QUOTE bring forth your IDOLS did they PREACH to you. Jeremiah 10 and i QUOTE sytates the guy on the cross is a FRAUD and he never heard him. John 5 and i QUOTE people long DEAD hear the son of mans VOICE. john 7 and i QUOTE jesus claims to not be GOD. john 10 jesus tries to make himself out to be GOD and condemned. Isiaih 65 and i quote GOD preaches with EYES verse referenced it is WRITTEN in front of me. Jeremiah 2 it is WRITTEN in front of me spalms 32 vs 8 GOD PREACHES with EYES. EZEKIEL 7 GOD preaches with EYES. john 7 and i QUOTE how does this man know sciptures never LEARNED/STUDIED. Mathew 16 JESUS claims to be son of man. EZEKIEL 7 son of man/ GOD preaches with EYES. NO ONE HERE HAS EVER DONE A GOD DAMNED BACKGROUND check. Amos 4 GOD reveals his thoughts to MANKIND jeremiah 6 GOD reveals his thoughts to mankind and is PISSED proverbs 1 you IGNORED my prophets of old and I'm going to laugh when evil comes your way jeremiah 10 they prey to thyier IDOLS and evil comes instead Duetonomy 31 pissed off GOD by idol worship and EVIL comes. Ezekiel 7 pissed of GOD through IDOLS Jeremiah 2 pissed off GOD through IDOLS. no one does a BACKGROUND check. jeremiah 10 they nail doewn thier idol like a SCARECROW. Ezekiel 7 EVIL because of idol worship. and it is all VERIFYABLE how fucked you guys are and verifyably fucked. Ezekiel 13 lying prophesies of the ISRAEL prophets lying prophets of jerusalem mica 3 jeremiah 19 inherited lies from the JEWS. AGAIN YOU DO NOT know OLD TESTIMATE AT ALL.
Hey Randy, you really got a good following on this one man. I just want to know one thing? Who can save themself? I've tried and failed, I lived, I've died, and now I live again. I have seen the risen christ dressed in light, man that really freaked me out too. I've seen angels on a few occasions and I try to commune with God on a daily basis.
Without a savior we're screwed.
-John : )
Shit Happens, in various World Religions:
Taoism: Shit happens, go with the flow.
Hare Krishna: Shit happens Rama Rama Ding Ding.
Hinduism: This shit has happened before.
Islam: Shit happening is the will of Allah.
Zen: What is the sound of shit happening?
Existentialism: Shit doesn't happen; shit is.
Buddhism: When shit happens, is it really shit?
Confucianism: Confucius says, "Shit happens".
7th day Adventist: Shit happens on Saturdays.
Protestantism: Shit won't happen if you work harder.
Catholicism: If shit happens, you deserved it.
Jehovah's Witnesses: No shit happens until Armaggedon, and it won't happen to us.
Unitarian: What is this shit?
Mormon: Shit happens again & again & again.
Judaism: Why does this shit always happen to us?
Pentacostalism: Praise the shit!
Atheism: There is no shit!
New Age: Shit happens and it happens to smell good if you open your heart to it.
Rastafarianism: Let's smoke this shit.
Hi Randy, sorry I am late on this... But its very thought provoking...Religion is a very hot topic anyday anytime. Spiritual development and physical development are similar. First rule based then responsibility based then transcends to other areas... Those who attack religious dogmas are also guilty of the same offense. exclusion and dogmas are age old human behaviors..thats why America is America with territorial integrity and China is China... Whether we like it or not..Christmas is a Christian Celebration...with Christian origin...you may wish to interpret it this way or the other at ones own convenience, but its a Catholic creation and lets leave it at that. I am tired also of following dogmas and doctrines but I know "they teach as doctrines the commands of men" See, Isaiah prophesied about the birth of Jesus years before He was born. I am sure even at that time some people didnt take it seriously...so I am not surprised if some people don't take it seriously now. LOVE, COMPASSION are good things, but remember, the best of human efforts like "filthy rag" before God. so no matter the extent of love and compassion we talk(seldom show) we need Jesus Christ to be one with God. Jesus said he is the way, other said there are other ways...dodgy I guess...I choose to follow the one who came decided... Christmas Is A Christian Holiday! Biblical or not is another cup of tea
I don't believe in organized religion but I do believe in the One True God who came down as a man (Jesus) to teach love and kindness, then taking on all our sin so we can live eternally. My church doesn't preach rules and regulations, but the teachings of the Bible and to have a relationship with Jesus. Once you begin getting closer to Jesus and read His Word, you will be able to show the love and compassion this world so desperately needs. I'm not perfect; I yell at people on the road, I get mad, I swear, and I have immoral thoughts, like everyone else but I know God will forgive me. So forgive yourself like Randy says! God will too if you ask!
Jesus (Jmmanuel) might actually be coming, and if so, it will be a cloned and highly programmed person from Mars.
It would be the staged second coming of Christ.
The show must go on.
Many planets in our neighborhood are populated, not least Mars, but also the "Moon", which by the way is artificial.
"The Truman Show" is for real, just like many other movies. There is a reason they are made for the public. They try to tell you what is really going on.
Jesus (Jmmanuel) was actually sent to Kashmir, India, after taken down from the cross by his alien genetic creators.
Some say he even met with Buddha.
He didn't marry again, but one of his sons was with him there. He had grandchildren that went around Asia and taught a new belief system. There are records of this from Japan.
He had conscious access to Universal Law and knew how to use it.
Mary Magdalene went hiding out in caves in France.
You can see the skull of Mary Magdalene and the bones of her daughter, Sarah, called the Black Virgin.
In France and even in Spain, the reality of Mary Magdalene and her children with Jesus (Jmmanuel) is accepted as a fact.
The Rennes-Le-Chateau Church is based on androgynous reptilian energies. Ritual sacrifice and sexual practices were common.
So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind,
Is all this sad world needs.
~ Ella Wheeler Wilcox ~Jo
Thought you meant he had drunk too much brandy for a minute! Happy New Year to you Randy and to all fellow blog readers.
Randy, I think you're great ... except when it comes to pontificating on religion.
I'm an amateur on these things but it seems like this is object lesson in why someone who's an expert in one subject (e.g., network marketing) should not pontificate, publicly, on subjects in which he's not (e.g., the Bible, Christianity, world religions in general, etc.).
Maybe we could consider the charitableness, at Christmastime, of such absolute statements as "the Bible is not the word of God" and "it is the word of men giving their interpretation of the word of God." May I suggest that some of the comments about Pat Robertson and millions of "fundamentalists" do not convey the spirit of peace, love, and goodwill?
Certainly, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But no one is entitled to the wrong "facts." It reminds of the man who, when asked what he knew about networking marketing, replied, "They're all illegal pyramid schemes!" I wonder what he might say about the Bible and Christianity.
I am so delighted to read this. Finally, a Christian said this.
While at Liverpool Uni I was surrounded by Evangelist Christian friends. Despite the fact that I had complete knowledge of why they were my friends I got along well with them. I liked the understanding they gave me about Christianity. Mind you, I am a Hindu. Always been.
ONLY thing that put me off Christianity is their utter hatred and intolerance of other religions and ideology. THe fact that Jesus is the ONLY true god kinda hit me.
Being a Hindu I was NEVER taught to hate or distrust other religions.
So I am so glad to know that true Christianity is not what they told me.
Randy...do you really think that when Jesus comes back to take us out of this rotten mess that he will be pissed at us?I am always worried about this..I try to not be an angry person selfish person...but if you cut me off I will give you the finger even if I am on my way to church...and that parking space was mine really it was...dam rite it is!...so you see what chence do I have of not gettin the big whammy?...J
God, Brahma, etc.
I'm OK with believing there is something out there. Spirtuality is great! Thanks Randy!
It's God's followers (and anyone who blindly believes in anyone or anything without question) that I am afraid of.
Yes, Jesus IS coming ... and for some, he is already here - as evidenced by these posts. :)
And not a minute too soon.
Let it spread!
love It! spot on man, spot on.
It's so interesting to me to talk with someone who is convinced their "right" and if you don't believe like they believe then you're certain to be damned to hell, period.
It just seems so arrogant to believe that you've gathered enough information and there is no chance of your being wrong on this that what you believe is the way 100% with no question and if you don't subscribe to the God I subscribe to then you're damned... whatever.
Love the post Randy. Love the fact that you're not afraid to share your thoughts (on anything).
Keep doing what you do big guy.
nice!!!He is coming grace the faith of Satan taking your faith a fiery nation such to be warned to torn ed fellow ship....political racial egotistical world ...we live in....
I have worked with Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Christians, and no matter what religion they have, the most important is the human character.but
everyone has the opportunity to work on yourself, but not everyone has the opportunity to meet Randy .
God bless you
and thanks Wencel
Anyways,Jesus was not a millionarie. You have hijack his teaching in a positive way. You are still stuck in the mind. I guess is better to live with a positive story instead of a negative story(still a story). It is better to do good than bad but still in the duality of life.
It is better to be spiritual-a union with the universe or a expression of the universe but still stuck in the idealized version of the ego.
"I am more than you are because... (add whatever you believe).
God is another concept!
Thank you for dissecting it all down to the basic premises - Reciprocity, compassion, good, peace, love. These are what we should focus on.
The Roman Pagan holiday of Saturnalia, otherwise known as Christmas, is an ancient time of orgies, banquets and all types of sacrifices.
It is to honor Satan and please him so he will not hurt his followers.
Ring a bell?
Sounds like God in the bible, and yes, on the 32nd degree of freemasonry, they tell you Satan is God.
Now, remember, the bible of today is very far from the original content.
Santa is an anagram of Satan.
Now you know what you're participating in, unless you choose to make it something else.
Try make it Appreciation Week for example, and skip the Satan stuff, green (satanic) Christmas tree etc.
Do not participate!
Yes, the rulers of this planet practice a mix of Satanism and Kabbalah. It's their religion. It's their choice.
Is it also your choice by deception?
"Love one another as I have loved you." ~ JC
JC meant everybody. He didn't mean that you had to like one another - as we know he had some issues with the Pharisees and Sadducees - but he did mean that you should love all. Because, we are all. The illusion of separateness causes us to forget that we are brothers and sisters with one Source being our origin.
Love. For everyone. No matter is they agree, disagree, attack, hate or verbally assail you. Doesn't matter. Love 'em.
Thanks for sharing the always fun debate Randy. Much Love to you for the New Year and more importantly, the Now.
The root issue here is that man did not create God, God created man. God has spoken to us in many ways in the past, but now he only speaks to us through Jesus Christ(paraphrase Hebrews 1).
In the bible there is in fact only one way to heaven where God, the God of the Israelites and therefor all Christians lives. Additionally, there is a hell.
Many people dismiss the idea of hell because they don't think it is fair. This simply don't understand that God is perfect and Holy and man is not. Man deserves punishment for sins. This started from the first man and all the way to you who is reading this today. There was only one man without sin and that was the Godman Jesus the Messiah. He was the sacrifice that fulfilled the Jewish Law and put into place the new covenant between God and man. Even though all will be punished for thier sin it is in His blood that your sin will not be seen by God the Father.
Of course many dismiss this teaching of the bible by saying that the bible was written by man and passed down. However, this excuse can be used to dismiss anything you don't like. When you get rid of the infallibility of the scriptures then everything becomes open to interpretation. At this point truth goes out the window because you have now begun multiple truths. The modern mentality that everyone is entitled to thier own god is the problem. When everyone is allowed to make up thier own truth, this actually leads to more judgement of one another then before. Therefor defeating the entire purpose you granted everyone the ability to form god to what they want him to be.
God forms us. Man can not make or change God.
Side note: Randy, I adore you and study your work daily. Your MLM rockstar and Duplication Nation have changed my business dramatically. God has given you amazing talents. Please be careful on stating facts about God while simultaneously allowing multiple truths. This is contradictory. Additionally, you have a massive following of devoted Christian believers who believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven. This is not our belief, it was his... He is God and he said it often, he accepted worship. This is why they to killed him even though he had never done anything but good.
Jesus is either God, or a lunatic, there is no room for anything in between.
I do believe in God, and have all my life. As a child I heard about hell and burning for ever if you sinned and if you were rich and a lot of other negative stuf. I never bought the hellpart or the burningpart, I thought that "my God is not like that", I just knew that. Obviously I bought the "being rich" part, but I am working myself out of that now, with your help, because you made me aware of it. For me before, being spiritual, wich is a very strong side in me, was the opposite of being rich. I want to thank you for that! My situation have started to change! I have so much faith that 2011 is going to be a fantastic year in all areas of my life.
Love to you Randy and everyone here.
Doesn`t the bible state that, Jesus will bring the sword and not peace. I think he is referring to idealogical and fundamentalist constructs and is not advocating physical or mental violence.
I also think that the quote below is referring to the gradual dissolution of our egoic consciousness.
The "full" quote, according to the New American Standard Bible (NASB) translation of the Bible, reads (Jesus speaking):
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB
"I rode my bike along the chain of islands on the Venetian Causeway. I stopped afterward at the park, and just laid on the ground, sucking a blade of grass, taking in the earth energy. It felt like I was communing with God. Which of course, I was."
Of course, you were ... what sheer bliss you must have experienced on this blessed morning :-). The priest who delivered my father's eulogy said, "A man in tune with nature is a man in tune with God."
I am new to your blog and have just spent the last couple of 'insomnia' hours reading each and every post. I find the 'contrast' of this human life adventure absolutely delicious.
I posted this earlier in a reply to a comment, and feel it even more as I have finished reading all the comments.
In the words of Abraham (and NOT the one from the bible), "You are not here to try to get the world to be just as you want it to be. You are here to create the world around you that you choose while you allow the world as others choose it to be to exists also."
L(¨`·.·´¨) Light ♥
O`·.¸(¨`·.·´)Joy & ♥
V¨`·.·´¨).¸.·´ Blessings ♥
Organized religion is infested with politics and even all great teachers would be totally pissed at what their teachings has become. How their teachings were misrepresented to gain political power and influence. I totally agree with that. Guess the great souls wont be interested in a blame game at all. They're already busy setting everything in place.
Thank You Randy! This is one of the most important messages that needs to be thought of. Religion should only be used as a guide to a better life - most of us have forgotten this simple point - We are more concerned about the exterior of our religions and have failed to recognize the inherent essence - Spirituality & humanity! Sadly our respective religions have been hijacked by highly fundamentalist individuals! We don't need these self styled religious Robin-hoods! Each of us, in our own small way will have to contribute & spread this message. Thanks once again!
I AM CONSTANTLY AMAZED AT HOW PEOPLE WHO GO TO CHURCH, MASS, ETC ON A REGULAR OR DAILY BASIS AND PURPORT TO BE GOOD CHRISTIANS TREAT AND JUDGE OTHERS. THEY SHOW NO COMPASSION OR UNDERSTANDING TOWARD WHAT THE OTHER PERSON MAY BE GOING THROUGH AND TREAT THEM HORRIBLY. IF THEY WERE REALLY LISTENING IN CHURCH OR WHATEVER THEIR RELIGIOUS BUILDING IS CALLED THEY WOULD THINK TWICE AND BE MORE UNDERSTANDING.
So Randy, I was just thinking. You seem so mad all the time at the fundamentalists, and well I don't blame you. They have a message that is cruel and brings hate into the world and not love. So, I understand your anger. Why do you keep staying so angry?
I feel bad it's Christmas and it seems like you had to spend time defending yourself and your beliefs. For someone like you who wants abundance and joy everday, it seems kinda of a yucky thing to have to do. I mean you put Jesus and pissed together on Christmas day (maybe you enjoyed the debate, I hope).
You know you kinda have something in common with those fundamentalists. You are a wealth fundamentalist. You have a fundamental belief that the only way to truly have a wealthy mindset is to be a Libertarian. This is what you told your readers. You also call being poor a sin. These are fundamental beliefs. They are black and white beliefs just like those Fundamentalist Christians hold. Wether you mean to or not you inspire hate with your fundamentalism as well. That really is what I have been trying to tell you. You lead your readers to believe if people are poor they are sinning against themselves, and you know maybe in some cases this is just not so. Libertarianism may also not be the only path to true wealth. Just some thoughts.
I know this post isn't about politics or Libertarianism. But, it's all connected my friend. Our religious beliefs, our values, they make up who we are.
We are only here to love. That is my honest belief. I'm not saying I've mastered it yet, just that I believe this.
True prosperity, not necessarily the material kind, is in my perspective infinite. I don't think material wealth or prosperity is infinite. Material resources are limited. The earths resources are limited. We humans are limited. Love is unlimited and infinite.
People in the projects are sometimes happy, and people in mansions. People in the projects are sometimes unhappy and people in mansions. Place and things truly do not matter as much as how you live. Living in the light and living in the darkness have nothing to do with anything material.
Sorry I've teased you in a merciless fashion and messed up some of your blogs. Really I just enjoy being silly sometimes. I hope you had a nice day. It sounds like it started out pretty good.
First - thanks for inspiring me to learn copywriting!
Second - Great post. My positive opinions are stated by earlier posters.
Third - I hope you'll think carefully before putting any more grass blades from the park in your mouth - ok?
Wow HOT topic !! I was raised Episcopalian, went to my friends Churches ie Catholic, Baptist, Calvary Chapel, found SRF and ended up teaching children yoga.
I believe as children of God we should be able to attend any service and find
God there. I used to have a sign on my door that
said Happy Birthday Jesus.
I agree with you RG
"Let’s forget about the dogma, doctrines, and differences, and celebrate the similarities. Reciprocity, compassion, good, peace, love. Those are the real season for the season!"
About as real as it gets. Merry Christmas everyone.
Randy, there are a lot of things I disagree with you (and your followers on), and I often let you know it. This is not one of them; I actually couldn't agree more with you. So, in fairness, I should let you know that, too. A lot of fundamentalists won't like this, but in my opinion, Jesus' greatest message to us was not "I came to die for your sins," but "I came to teach you how to love."
I agree Randy. I think part of the problem with religion, beliefs, etc.. is that no one seems to practice what they preach. I am a cristian and I believe in Jesus as all of our savior. I also read and study the bible. Everything that is now occuring relative to religious beliefs and behavioral changes is all documented in the bible. It is a road map if you are willing to take the time to understand the true meaning. I think, like so many things in life, people take a superficial look and make conclusions that are not accurate due to their lack of true understanding. Even with that said, it doesn't take any of us off the hook for our own attitudes and behaviors that we choose to act out. I truly believe that most people are good, they just spend way too little time on fully educating themselves on things before they express their opinions. Words spoken are taken way too lightly in this world we live in. If people would choose their words more carefully and become aware and sensitive to their own behaviors, the world would be a much better place. We were given 2 ears and one mouth for a reason. We could all use a lot of self improvement on this.
"Let’s forget about the dogma, doctrines, and differences, and celebrate the similarities. Reciprocity, compassion, good, peace, love. "
Now go back and write that one. Not the nonsense you did. Who cares about all that stuff if what you ended it with is true.... or are you stuck or fixated on something in your past? If so it’s time to ‘get off it’ and be compassion, goodness, peace and love… I know you know how.
I BELIEVE ALL MORTALS NEED TO BE BORN AGAIN
JESUS SAID TO NICODEMUS ALONG TIME AGO AS
RECORDED IN THE SCRIPTURES "YOU MUST BE BORN
AGAIN" WE ARE LOST AND EVENTUALLY END UP IN
HELL IF WE ARE NOT SAVED
NARROW IS THE WAY THAT LEADETH TO HEAVEN
AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT
ALWAYS READ THE BIBLE AND DONT LISTEN TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY
Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind & soul. And love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus is God period. He is the way the truth and the light. Anyone who says otherwise I love & pray they look into the life of Jesus, not His followers. He was the original, anytime you try to duplicate or make a copy of something it's less than perfect. So if you are looking at His followers as the standard you will be disappointed most of thetime. Look to the source, He's a person & a lot bigger than you can imagine. Even though He came as a humble & small package as the babe in a manger. Merry Christmas everyone!
I have written a lot of verse in my life. I am a a Reiki Master and after one of my Training Sessions this poem appeared in my mind and I just wrote it down:
The ‘One with All’ that enters in my mind
Engenders thoughts of peace for all mankind.
When we can see that we are all the same
It stills the need to play the killing game.
The rose does not attack the maple tree
But lives beside, in peace and harmony.
Since time began we learn to hate
Those others who exist beyond our gate.
When all can grasp we live on common ground
The answers to our strife may well be found.
I lost faith in Christianity when I suddenly realised that the New Testamanent was designed by the Roman Emperor Constatine in the 4th Century AD when He decided to convert to Christianity and ditch all the Roman Gods who had served them for centuries. He it was who decided which four of the many gospels which were available at the time should be included in the New Testament.
Interestingly Mohammed wrote the Quran shortly afterwards! A Power struggle maybe??
Interestingly the Christain fundamentalists in the middle ages were just as vicious as the Muslim fundamentalists of today. The Spanish Inquistion torturing and buring at the stake any who questioned any aspect of the Roman Catholic Faith.
I came to my senses when the Reiki Master who taught me and who has several Spirit Guides said to me.
'You know Richard, all man made religions cease at the grave side. Whe we pass over into the Spirit world there is no religion and we are all the same'
I find that immensely comforting. I KNOW I have been on this earth before in previous lives and I'm sure I shall l come again. Incidentally re-incarnation was once part of the Christian Faith until someone decided to 'ban it'
Hope I haven't rattled too many cages but rather given food for thought.
I've been thinking about Reciprocity, and to me it seems like it's not quite there. Reciprocity kinda waits for someone to do something FIRST and you reciprocate.
What about being first?
"Half the world is waiting for the other half to say hello"
Hi Randy Gage,
Born in the middle east and raised as catholic, I was taught that the catholic are the exclusive agent to god and every body else is going to hell.Then my high school was american evangelical school that daily proved to us that they are the exclusive agent to god and everybody else is going to hell.In my Art academy university was in Hard line Greek Orthodox community that believed that they are the only exclusive agent to god and everybody else is going to hell. Next to my country, the jews truely believe that they are the chosen people and everybody is going to hell, I worked with some Shiite citizens who believed that they are the last exclusive agents to god and every body is going to Hell.Finally, I went and worked in the Arabian Gulf states, I met many Sunni people who believed that they are truely exclusive agent to god and everybody else is going to hell.And, I read Ayn Rand and she truly believes an establishment based on sacrifice and basic sin dogma is the hell itself.
Randy, while I respect your opinion, are you really sure you have the answer? It appears you are lumping Jesus, Christianity and TV Evangelists all together and then blending that with all other popular religious philosophies. One thing Jesus did was to hang with common folk, speak to them in simple terms. One thing he said was "No one comes to the Father, but by me." Simple language that cannot be taken out of content here. Jesus drew a line in the sand. He created the exclusivity long before the Fundamentalists arrived. He basically saw the trends in his time, and told the truth. Now, many people do not like what he said, yet he said it, not me. There is a simple line in the sand, Jesus said it, he defined the entry into his kingdom and many people have tried to redefine that because it really is inclusive.
Randy you can love somebody without sharing the same spiritual beliefs. Just because someone believes that Jesus or Mohammad or whatever is the only way to God that doesn't mean they don't love you if you don't believe that (although many people do act like that and I agree with you totally that such behavior is wrong.) I have plenty of people that I love who I share different spiritual beliefs just like I have plenty of people I love that I share different political beliefs. People just need to learn how to agree to disagree.
Well said Randy, and all other respondents. It's simple really; the challenge I guess is to be the change we want to see - I've stopped using energy trying to communiate these sentiments to my fundamentalist family and just live my truth as best I can...funnily they have stopped preaching to me!
I am a Christian and I appreciate your perspective. However, you are making the same mistake of those you are judging. Not all Christians behave the way you describe them. I know many Christians who do, sadly. However, I also know more, many more, who are compassionate, loving and non-judgmental. I know men, women and teens who give of themselves to stop prostitution, poverty and the sex traffic of children. I also know many non-christians who worship only money and power. Please don't generalize. People are people. There are good and bad regardless of religious belief. I find it odd that you found it necessary to single Christians out.
Great topic, Randy, for Christmas. Gets us all thinking about how we live our lives, how we treat others, and looking inside ourselves to answer questions like, "What does it mean to be spiritual, loving, and caring?"