So Jesus believed in original sin? Control, shame, humiliation.....conflicting values for the New Testament....What happened to our God of love and forgiveness? Oh he's having a barbecue and everyone's invited except the born again Christians from the 5th Baptist Church on the right of Main street in Birmingham Alabama? Cancel my subscription to the resurrection!
Jesus Is Coming – And He Looks Pissed
by Randy Gage
To celebrate my Christmas morning, I rode my bike along the chain of islands on the Venetian Causeway. I stopped afterward at the park, and just laid on the ground, sucking a blade of grass, taking in the earth energy. It felt like I was communing with God. Which of course, I was.
It got me thinking about the real spirit of the holiday. The fundamentalists will say that Jesus is the reason for the season, but not sure I’m really buying that.
There are a lot of posts on Twitter today from people of all faiths wishing a Merry Christmas to their Christian friends. I wish more Christians adopted that kind of acceptance.
Not sure if Pat Robertson has a Twitter account, but if he did, I could imagine this tweet from him: Merry Christmas 2 all my Christian friends. And the rest of U are going 2 rot and burn in Hell with gnashing of teeth!
Reminds me of a conversation I have last week with my friend Theo Androus. He’s writing a new book with a working title, Christ, In Search of a Christian. We were discussing all the exclusion, hate, and intolerance passing as Christianity today. Unfortunately this is prevalent in most faiths.
The fundamentalists have hijacked the message…
This attitude of ‘we have the only way and everyone else is going to get left behind,’ is certainly not the real message of Jesus. Nor is it the real message of Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Shinto, Confucianism, Taoism, or other major religions.
Organized religion is filled with doctrines and dogma, and the fundamentalists seem to get sidetracked with all that. But the essence of religion – spirituality – is actually quite simple and basic.
Confucius taught that enlightenment came from perfecting five virtues. He expressed them in one: Reciprocity. Buddha taught enlightenment came from eight virtues. And he reduced these down to one: Compassion.
Tao, or the path, teaches that people are good by nature, and that one should be kind to others simply because. Zoroastrians dedicate their lives to a three-fold path represented by their motto: “Good thoughts, good words, good deeds.”
The Jews also believe in the inherent goodness of the world and its inhabitants. They see everyone as creations of God who do not require a savior to save them from original sin. True followers of Shinto desire peace and believe all human life and nature is sacred. The five pillars of Islam would bring anyone closer to peace. Hindus seek salvation in selfless acts and thoughts
And contrary to what some of the TV evangelists would have you believe, Jesus reduced everything to the principle of love. I have to believe if he came back today, he would be shocked, saddened and angry at what is being said and done in his name.
Let’s forget about the dogma, doctrines, and differences, and celebrate the similarities. Reciprocity, compassion, good, peace, love. Those are the real season for the season!
JEsus christ is a FRAud perpetuated by mankind read jeremiah 10 isiah 42 ezekiel 13 ezekiel 7 among MANY other old tesimate scriptures you all are a bunch of IDIOTIC frauds following FRAUDS. Joahn 10 and i QUOTE jesus states his SHEEP hear his voice and nother they will not FOLLOW. isiah 42 states and i QUOTE bring forth your IDOLS did they PREACH to you. Jeremiah 10 and i QUOTE sytates the guy on the cross is a FRAUD and he never heard him. John 5 and i QUOTE people long DEAD hear the son of mans VOICE. john 7 and i QUOTE jesus claims to not be GOD. john 10 jesus tries to make himself out to be GOD and condemned. Isiaih 65 and i quote GOD preaches with EYES verse referenced it is WRITTEN in front of me. Jeremiah 2 it is WRITTEN in front of me spalms 32 vs 8 GOD PREACHES with EYES. EZEKIEL 7 GOD preaches with EYES. john 7 and i QUOTE how does this man know sciptures never LEARNED/STUDIED. Mathew 16 JESUS claims to be son of man. EZEKIEL 7 son of man/ GOD preaches with EYES. NO ONE HERE HAS EVER DONE A GOD DAMNED BACKGROUND check. Amos 4 GOD reveals his thoughts to MANKIND jeremiah 6 GOD reveals his thoughts to mankind and is PISSED proverbs 1 you IGNORED my prophets of old and I'm going to laugh when evil comes your way jeremiah 10 they prey to thyier IDOLS and evil comes instead Duetonomy 31 pissed off GOD by idol worship and EVIL comes. Ezekiel 7 pissed of GOD through IDOLS Jeremiah 2 pissed off GOD through IDOLS. no one does a BACKGROUND check. jeremiah 10 they nail doewn thier idol like a SCARECROW. Ezekiel 7 EVIL because of idol worship. and it is all VERIFYABLE how fucked you guys are and verifyably fucked. Ezekiel 13 lying prophesies of the ISRAEL prophets lying prophets of jerusalem mica 3 jeremiah 19 inherited lies from the JEWS. AGAIN YOU DO NOT know OLD TESTIMATE AT ALL.
Hey Randy, you really got a good following on this one man. I just want to know one thing? Who can save themself? I've tried and failed, I lived, I've died, and now I live again. I have seen the risen christ dressed in light, man that really freaked me out too. I've seen angels on a few occasions and I try to commune with God on a daily basis.
Without a savior we're screwed.
-John : )
Shit Happens, in various World Religions:
Taoism: Shit happens, go with the flow.
Hare Krishna: Shit happens Rama Rama Ding Ding.
Hinduism: This shit has happened before.
Islam: Shit happening is the will of Allah.
Zen: What is the sound of shit happening?
Existentialism: Shit doesn't happen; shit is.
Buddhism: When shit happens, is it really shit?
Confucianism: Confucius says, "Shit happens".
7th day Adventist: Shit happens on Saturdays.
Protestantism: Shit won't happen if you work harder.
Catholicism: If shit happens, you deserved it.
Jehovah's Witnesses: No shit happens until Armaggedon, and it won't happen to us.
Unitarian: What is this shit?
Mormon: Shit happens again & again & again.
Judaism: Why does this shit always happen to us?
Pentacostalism: Praise the shit!
Atheism: There is no shit!
New Age: Shit happens and it happens to smell good if you open your heart to it.
Rastafarianism: Let's smoke this shit.
Hi Randy, sorry I am late on this... But its very thought provoking...Religion is a very hot topic anyday anytime. Spiritual development and physical development are similar. First rule based then responsibility based then transcends to other areas... Those who attack religious dogmas are also guilty of the same offense. exclusion and dogmas are age old human behaviors..thats why America is America with territorial integrity and China is China... Whether we like it or not..Christmas is a Christian Celebration...with Christian origin...you may wish to interpret it this way or the other at ones own convenience, but its a Catholic creation and lets leave it at that. I am tired also of following dogmas and doctrines but I know "they teach as doctrines the commands of men" See, Isaiah prophesied about the birth of Jesus years before He was born. I am sure even at that time some people didnt take it seriously...so I am not surprised if some people don't take it seriously now. LOVE, COMPASSION are good things, but remember, the best of human efforts like "filthy rag" before God. so no matter the extent of love and compassion we talk(seldom show) we need Jesus Christ to be one with God. Jesus said he is the way, other said there are other ways...dodgy I guess...I choose to follow the one who came decided... Christmas Is A Christian Holiday! Biblical or not is another cup of tea
I don't believe in organized religion but I do believe in the One True God who came down as a man (Jesus) to teach love and kindness, then taking on all our sin so we can live eternally. My church doesn't preach rules and regulations, but the teachings of the Bible and to have a relationship with Jesus. Once you begin getting closer to Jesus and read His Word, you will be able to show the love and compassion this world so desperately needs. I'm not perfect; I yell at people on the road, I get mad, I swear, and I have immoral thoughts, like everyone else but I know God will forgive me. So forgive yourself like Randy says! God will too if you ask!
Jesus (Jmmanuel) might actually be coming, and if so, it will be a cloned and highly programmed person from Mars.
It would be the staged second coming of Christ.
The show must go on.
Many planets in our neighborhood are populated, not least Mars, but also the "Moon", which by the way is artificial.
"The Truman Show" is for real, just like many other movies. There is a reason they are made for the public. They try to tell you what is really going on.
Jesus (Jmmanuel) was actually sent to Kashmir, India, after taken down from the cross by his alien genetic creators.
Some say he even met with Buddha.
He didn't marry again, but one of his sons was with him there. He had grandchildren that went around Asia and taught a new belief system. There are records of this from Japan.
He had conscious access to Universal Law and knew how to use it.
Mary Magdalene went hiding out in caves in France.
You can see the skull of Mary Magdalene and the bones of her daughter, Sarah, called the Black Virgin.
In France and even in Spain, the reality of Mary Magdalene and her children with Jesus (Jmmanuel) is accepted as a fact.
The Rennes-Le-Chateau Church is based on androgynous reptilian energies. Ritual sacrifice and sexual practices were common.
So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind,
Is all this sad world needs.
~ Ella Wheeler Wilcox ~Jo
Thought you meant he had drunk too much brandy for a minute! Happy New Year to you Randy and to all fellow blog readers.
Randy, I think you're great ... except when it comes to pontificating on religion.
I'm an amateur on these things but it seems like this is object lesson in why someone who's an expert in one subject (e.g., network marketing) should not pontificate, publicly, on subjects in which he's not (e.g., the Bible, Christianity, world religions in general, etc.).
Maybe we could consider the charitableness, at Christmastime, of such absolute statements as "the Bible is not the word of God" and "it is the word of men giving their interpretation of the word of God." May I suggest that some of the comments about Pat Robertson and millions of "fundamentalists" do not convey the spirit of peace, love, and goodwill?
Certainly, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But no one is entitled to the wrong "facts." It reminds of the man who, when asked what he knew about networking marketing, replied, "They're all illegal pyramid schemes!" I wonder what he might say about the Bible and Christianity.
I am so delighted to read this. Finally, a Christian said this.
While at Liverpool Uni I was surrounded by Evangelist Christian friends. Despite the fact that I had complete knowledge of why they were my friends I got along well with them. I liked the understanding they gave me about Christianity. Mind you, I am a Hindu. Always been.
ONLY thing that put me off Christianity is their utter hatred and intolerance of other religions and ideology. THe fact that Jesus is the ONLY true god kinda hit me.
Being a Hindu I was NEVER taught to hate or distrust other religions.
So I am so glad to know that true Christianity is not what they told me.
Randy...do you really think that when Jesus comes back to take us out of this rotten mess that he will be pissed at us?I am always worried about this..I try to not be an angry person selfish person...but if you cut me off I will give you the finger even if I am on my way to church...and that parking space was mine really it was...dam rite it is!...so you see what chence do I have of not gettin the big whammy?...J
God, Brahma, etc.
I'm OK with believing there is something out there. Spirtuality is great! Thanks Randy!
It's God's followers (and anyone who blindly believes in anyone or anything without question) that I am afraid of.
Yes, Jesus IS coming ... and for some, he is already here - as evidenced by these posts. :)
And not a minute too soon.
Let it spread!
love It! spot on man, spot on.
It's so interesting to me to talk with someone who is convinced their "right" and if you don't believe like they believe then you're certain to be damned to hell, period.
It just seems so arrogant to believe that you've gathered enough information and there is no chance of your being wrong on this that what you believe is the way 100% with no question and if you don't subscribe to the God I subscribe to then you're damned... whatever.
Love the post Randy. Love the fact that you're not afraid to share your thoughts (on anything).
Keep doing what you do big guy.
nice!!!He is coming grace the faith of Satan taking your faith a fiery nation such to be warned to torn ed fellow ship....political racial egotistical world ...we live in....
I have worked with Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Christians, and no matter what religion they have, the most important is the human character.but
everyone has the opportunity to work on yourself, but not everyone has the opportunity to meet Randy .
God bless you
and thanks Wencel
Anyways,Jesus was not a millionarie. You have hijack his teaching in a positive way. You are still stuck in the mind. I guess is better to live with a positive story instead of a negative story(still a story). It is better to do good than bad but still in the duality of life.
It is better to be spiritual-a union with the universe or a expression of the universe but still stuck in the idealized version of the ego.
"I am more than you are because... (add whatever you believe).
God is another concept!
Thank you for dissecting it all down to the basic premises - Reciprocity, compassion, good, peace, love. These are what we should focus on.
The Roman Pagan holiday of Saturnalia, otherwise known as Christmas, is an ancient time of orgies, banquets and all types of sacrifices.
It is to honor Satan and please him so he will not hurt his followers.
Ring a bell?
Sounds like God in the bible, and yes, on the 32nd degree of freemasonry, they tell you Satan is God.
Now, remember, the bible of today is very far from the original content.
Santa is an anagram of Satan.
Now you know what you're participating in, unless you choose to make it something else.
Try make it Appreciation Week for example, and skip the Satan stuff, green (satanic) Christmas tree etc.
Do not participate!
Yes, the rulers of this planet practice a mix of Satanism and Kabbalah. It's their religion. It's their choice.
Is it also your choice by deception?
"Love one another as I have loved you." ~ JC
JC meant everybody. He didn't mean that you had to like one another - as we know he had some issues with the Pharisees and Sadducees - but he did mean that you should love all. Because, we are all. The illusion of separateness causes us to forget that we are brothers and sisters with one Source being our origin.
Love. For everyone. No matter is they agree, disagree, attack, hate or verbally assail you. Doesn't matter. Love 'em.
Thanks for sharing the always fun debate Randy. Much Love to you for the New Year and more importantly, the Now.
The root issue here is that man did not create God, God created man. God has spoken to us in many ways in the past, but now he only speaks to us through Jesus Christ(paraphrase Hebrews 1).
In the bible there is in fact only one way to heaven where God, the God of the Israelites and therefor all Christians lives. Additionally, there is a hell.
Many people dismiss the idea of hell because they don't think it is fair. This simply don't understand that God is perfect and Holy and man is not. Man deserves punishment for sins. This started from the first man and all the way to you who is reading this today. There was only one man without sin and that was the Godman Jesus the Messiah. He was the sacrifice that fulfilled the Jewish Law and put into place the new covenant between God and man. Even though all will be punished for thier sin it is in His blood that your sin will not be seen by God the Father.
Of course many dismiss this teaching of the bible by saying that the bible was written by man and passed down. However, this excuse can be used to dismiss anything you don't like. When you get rid of the infallibility of the scriptures then everything becomes open to interpretation. At this point truth goes out the window because you have now begun multiple truths. The modern mentality that everyone is entitled to thier own god is the problem. When everyone is allowed to make up thier own truth, this actually leads to more judgement of one another then before. Therefor defeating the entire purpose you granted everyone the ability to form god to what they want him to be.
God forms us. Man can not make or change God.
Side note: Randy, I adore you and study your work daily. Your MLM rockstar and Duplication Nation have changed my business dramatically. God has given you amazing talents. Please be careful on stating facts about God while simultaneously allowing multiple truths. This is contradictory. Additionally, you have a massive following of devoted Christian believers who believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven. This is not our belief, it was his... He is God and he said it often, he accepted worship. This is why they to killed him even though he had never done anything but good.
Jesus is either God, or a lunatic, there is no room for anything in between.
I do believe in God, and have all my life. As a child I heard about hell and burning for ever if you sinned and if you were rich and a lot of other negative stuf. I never bought the hellpart or the burningpart, I thought that "my God is not like that", I just knew that. Obviously I bought the "being rich" part, but I am working myself out of that now, with your help, because you made me aware of it. For me before, being spiritual, wich is a very strong side in me, was the opposite of being rich. I want to thank you for that! My situation have started to change! I have so much faith that 2011 is going to be a fantastic year in all areas of my life.
Love to you Randy and everyone here.
Doesn`t the bible state that, Jesus will bring the sword and not peace. I think he is referring to idealogical and fundamentalist constructs and is not advocating physical or mental violence.
I also think that the quote below is referring to the gradual dissolution of our egoic consciousness.
The "full" quote, according to the New American Standard Bible (NASB) translation of the Bible, reads (Jesus speaking):
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB
"I rode my bike along the chain of islands on the Venetian Causeway. I stopped afterward at the park, and just laid on the ground, sucking a blade of grass, taking in the earth energy. It felt like I was communing with God. Which of course, I was."
Of course, you were ... what sheer bliss you must have experienced on this blessed morning :-). The priest who delivered my father's eulogy said, "A man in tune with nature is a man in tune with God."
I am new to your blog and have just spent the last couple of 'insomnia' hours reading each and every post. I find the 'contrast' of this human life adventure absolutely delicious.
I posted this earlier in a reply to a comment, and feel it even more as I have finished reading all the comments.
In the words of Abraham (and NOT the one from the bible), "You are not here to try to get the world to be just as you want it to be. You are here to create the world around you that you choose while you allow the world as others choose it to be to exists also."
L(¨`·.·´¨) Light ♥
O`·.¸(¨`·.·´)Joy & ♥
V¨`·.·´¨).¸.·´ Blessings ♥
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This blog is about success and prosperity and your beliefs about organized religion play a huge part in that.
Not only that...there are too many indifference even in the christian religion in terms of denomination and true way of worshiping God.
Yes, Santa has always been a scary thing. Wonder why many children cry when they are forced to sit on his knee? I found out the TRUTH at a young age and felt so betrayed. Being LIED to affected me deeply. I do not have children, however, if I did they would have known the truth from the beginning, I would not have told them stories of things or beings that didn't exist.
Sword is a message....its not a physical thing....its "sharper than two edged sword" like its doing today on this post...cutting..piercing...
I know some people go crazy when I say this, but it needs to be said again: The Bible is not the word of God. It is the word of men giving their interpretation of the word of God.
And I have learned that if you pull out paragraphs and pieces of it, you can use them to justify just about anything, up to and including murder.
Read in its entirety -- and in context -- the Bible is a wonderful prosperity textbook. In my faith (which is a Christian one I should note), we don't take everything literally. The lessons there are metaphysical, taught with parables.
Now that doesn't mean everyone reading this blog has to agree with me. I'm not here to convert anyone. I wanted to raise the issues of being congruent to your beliefs, and if those beliefs really serve you.
As I said in my book, many organized religions are run as cosmic frequent flyer programs, where people are led to believe they can collect points here to cash in for the free trip to salvation afterward. They see God as a cosmic Santa Clause, who is making a list and checking twice, to find out who's been naughty or nice. As a result, some of these people jump on my blogs and make their comments to show Santa they're being good. They are not really responding to me, they're just trying to ensure they've got enough miles in their account for the free trip to heaven. I get that, and if that makes them happy, good for them.
The whole point of my post was to get people to do some critical thinking about what the real message of the season should be.
One more thing ... I do believe that if Jesus WERE to come today, he WOULD be pissed ;-) After all, as Patrick pointed out to us, "Jesus’ greatest message to us was not 'I came to die for your sins,' but 'I came to teach you how to love'.”
Randy, I'm sorry if my reply was inappropriate.
By the way, your teaching products on network marketing (available at NetworkMarketingTimes.com) are the best! I appreciate your sincerity, candor, and genuineness.
Happy New Year!
Oh Randy, I think he might be on to something about the spirit of being charitable to the fundamentalists. Although, I'm sure you meant well, it is something to contemplate. I also like the color red-orange. By the way, I was having a nice Christmas myself until I lost the poetry contest, and our poodle ate my sons' new moon dough(really disgusting).
The bible is the word of God. I was amazed to hear you say this. Everything in the bible is God's word. It was spoken THROUGH the prophets. It was not their take on the experience.
Hi Matt ... Yes it IS Abraham-Hicks and, like you, I LOVE their work. You might say 'Abraham' saved my life or should I say 'spirit' ;-)
There are women in jail who claim 'god' spoke to them and told them to kill their children. Perhaps they should write a bible too?
That's an interesting opinion, mine is different. The bible was written through spirit to the people chosen. It wasn't recallections of experience. It was brought through the holy spirit given them.
Mary Ellen the bible didn't fall from the sky with the words of christ written in red ink. It was written by men, yes mostly men, which is also why it is a bit sexist in my opinion. I mean come on if we believe the origin story, women are responsible for bringing sin to earth.
We can all be prophets of God. God speaks through all of us from time to time. Much of the bible was written with brilliant messages by brilliant and wise people, but they had no more access to God than we do. The bible is a wonderful teaching tool and many of the stories are metaphors.
The Bible contradicts itself in many places. It's been translated and written by several different people.